VIN vs model year

johnny

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Cool. Hows to tell us who you are and where you are and what GMC you have. Do a sig line.

--johnny

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Braselton, Ga.
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The year is indicated by the third number after the TZE. For instance, my '75 starts out with TZE 165...
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Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles,
Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
 
> I see my sig line but anyhoo: real name Shane and I live in a really small village just west of Baraboo, WI. The rig is (ostensibly) a 74 Canyon
> Lands. As I said in the lead post, it was sold as an Eleganze which it clearly is not. The upholstery and counter top colors etc point to the Canyon
> Lands scheme, not that it really matters 45 years on...
> I'll get into the story of the MH in another post soon.

Shane
The sticker in the glovebox should have the actual manufacture date on it. That is assuming it is still there.

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St Augustine, FL
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> So at the top of the glove box label is the number 092773 which I'm interpreting to be the build date of Sept 27, 1973. Still begs actually two
> questions:
> 1. If there were 2059 units made for 1973 and the first for sale was 0021 why is mine over 2500 and also the thing about "early 73 being before
> 2400". Was there a jump in the numbering system or???
> 2. Mine is titled as 74. Is it reasonable that it was a carry over to 74 or is the title more likely wrong.
>
> Enquiring minds, etc, etc.
>
> Shane

Shane,

The actual VIN is the real determiner.
T Manufactured by General Motors
Z Three Axle Motorhome
E Gasoline Engine
1 Interior Code - 0-GM Interior from 1973 to 1974 1-GM Interior from 1975 to 1978
2-Twin Bed Interior for 1976 and 1977 3-Transmode (sold without interior or windows)
6 Model Code 6-Model 260 (26 feet long) 3-Model 230 (23 feet long)

7 Model Year In this case it would be 1977
V Manufacturing Plant Code V - Pontiac, Michigan

1 First Digit of Production Series Number All production started with a "1" in this position
0 Second Digit of Production Series Number Since total production was less than 13,000, all GMC units had a "0" in this position
2359 Production Sequence Number Reset to "0" each model year
Model year is only vaguely related to calendar year. The model year is completely determined by the manufacturing plant.

While that last is called a production sequence number, I very much doubt that it was a true "serial" number. Many manufactures assign this number
with the original order and it often (Not Always) may not relate to the order of production. i.e. If it was ordered with equipment that is not
available, the production may be held until it is.

My coach is TZE033V101650. The glove compartment sticker is gone, but it has features of being a very early build. Some things were also modified by
a conscientious previous owner that found and included newer versions of several parts.

Matt

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Matt & Mary Colie - '73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan
OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
 
Why does anyone care. They made 13,000 of them, more or less. The only ones
that might be significant would be first produced, and last produced. They
were a mass produced vehicle, not quite like a Duesenberg or Ferrari where
only a handful were made, each unique from all the others. What is
important on GMC's is year model, to i.d. what equipment they might have
had when they left the factory. After that date, all bets are off.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon
78 GMC ROYALE 403, left the Michigan plant in May, 1978. Upfitted by Jimmy
Industries. Sold later that year to a broker at a Honda dealership,
original owner drove it to Long Beach, Washington, where he sold it and
flew home.

On Wed, Jul 3, 2019, 4:26 PM Matt Colie via Gmclist
wrote:

> > So at the top of the glove box label is the number 092773 which I'm
> interpreting to be the build date of Sept 27, 1973. Still begs actually two
> > questions:
> > 1. If there were 2059 units made for 1973 and the first for sale was
> 0021 why is mine over 2500 and also the thing about "early 73 being before
> > 2400". Was there a jump in the numbering system or???
> > 2. Mine is titled as 74. Is it reasonable that it was a carry over to 74
> or is the title more likely wrong.
> >
> > Enquiring minds, etc, etc.
> >
> > Shane
>
> Shane,
>
> The actual VIN is the real determiner.
> T Manufactured by General Motors
> Z Three Axle Motorhome
> E Gasoline Engine
> 1 Interior Code - 0-GM Interior from 1973 to 1974 1-GM Interior
> from 1975 to 1978
> 2-Twin Bed Interior for 1976 and 1977 3-Transmode (sold
> without interior or windows)
> 6 Model Code 6-Model 260 (26 feet long) 3-Model 230 (23 feet long)
>
> 7 Model Year In this case it would be 1977
> V Manufacturing Plant Code V - Pontiac, Michigan
>
> 1 First Digit of Production Series Number All production started
> with a "1" in this position
> 0 Second Digit of Production Series Number Since total production
> was less than 13,000, all GMC units had a "0" in this position
> 2359 Production Sequence Number Reset to "0" each model year
> Model year is only vaguely related to calendar year. The model year is
> completely determined by the manufacturing plant.
>
> While that last is called a production sequence number, I very much doubt
> that it was a true "serial" number. Many manufactures assign this number
> with the original order and it often (Not Always) may not relate to the
> order of production. i.e. If it was ordered with equipment that is not
> available, the production may be held until it is.
>
> My coach is TZE033V101650. The glove compartment sticker is gone, but it
> has features of being a very early build. Some things were also modified by
> a conscientious previous owner that found and included newer versions of
> several parts.
>
> Matt
>
> --
> Matt & Mary Colie - '73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
> Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan
> OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
>
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