Spitting Transmission

Carl Stouffer

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Here's a little followup to a thread from back in March:

After discussing the transmission "spitting" issue with my "mechanical team" (Jim the mechanic and Logan the transmission builder) it was suggested
that I take a second look at my transmission vent hose routing. I had the hose going directly from the vent elbow on top of the transmission, to the
outside of the frame on the left side, going downhill all the way.

The theory was that this routing was somehow creating a siphon condition that was actually sucking fluid out of the vent. It really didn't make
sense, since the vent is at the top of the transmission and the only thing that should come out of it would be a little air in the form of pressure
relief. I went with their suggestion and put a longer hose on the vent with kind of a reverse trap in it. In other words, I routed the hose up
almost to the bottom of the floor, tying it to the back of the step, before running it out the side.

Problem solved.

On our 950 mile Summer trip last month, no fluid was lost from the transmission, in spite of several long pulls up 6% or steeper grades in second gear
(at temperatures well in excess of 100 degrees). Part of that was the same route (I-17 north of Phoenix) where I had the problem back in March.
There were several shorter trips in between those two, but I didn't want to draw any conclusions until I took a longer trip.

Hope this helps if anyone else has experienced this problem with their transmissions.
--
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles,
Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
 
Carl,

I've never had such a problem, but back when I installed a transmission
vent hose 10+ years ago, I routed the open end of it into a pill bottle
mounted on the back of the rear mount crossmember. That allows me to
monitor for drainage from the vent, and prevents any vacuum creation or
critter residence. Fact is, after all that time, there's less than 1/8" of
ATF in the bottle.

Just another idea for how to terminate the drains.

Ken H.

On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 11:06 PM Carl Stouffer via Gmclist <

> Here's a little followup to a thread from back in March:
>
> After discussing the transmission "spitting" issue with my "mechanical
> team" (Jim the mechanic and Logan the transmission builder) it was suggested
> that I take a second look at my transmission vent hose routing. I had the
> hose going directly from the vent elbow on top of the transmission, to the
> outside of the frame on the left side, going downhill all the way.
>
> The theory was that this routing was somehow creating a siphon condition
> that was actually sucking fluid out of the vent. It really didn't make
> sense, since the vent is at the top of the transmission and the only thing
> that should come out of it would be a little air in the form of pressure
> relief. I went with their suggestion and put a longer hose on the vent
> with kind of a reverse trap in it. In other words, I routed the hose up
> almost to the bottom of the floor, tying it to the back of the step,
> before running it out the side.
>
> Problem solved.
>
> On our 950 mile Summer trip last month, no fluid was lost from the
> transmission, in spite of several long pulls up 6% or steeper grades in
> second gear
> (at temperatures well in excess of 100 degrees). Part of that was the
> same route (I-17 north of Phoenix) where I had the problem back in March.
> There were several shorter trips in between those two, but I didn't want
> to draw any conclusions until I took a longer trip.
>
> Hope this helps if anyone else has experienced this problem with their
> transmissions.
> --
> Carl Stouffer
> '75 ex Palm Beach
> Tucson, AZ.
> Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive,
> Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American
> Eagles,
> Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
>
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How i did it, also.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon

On Wed, Aug 26, 2020, 8:26 PM Ken Henderson via Gmclist <

> Carl,
>
> I've never had such a problem, but back when I installed a transmission
> vent hose 10+ years ago, I routed the open end of it into a pill bottle
> mounted on the back of the rear mount crossmember. That allows me to
> monitor for drainage from the vent, and prevents any vacuum creation or
> critter residence. Fact is, after all that time, there's less than 1/8" of
> ATF in the bottle.
>
> Just another idea for how to terminate the drains.
>
> Ken H.
>
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 11:06 PM Carl Stouffer via Gmclist <

>
> > Here's a little followup to a thread from back in March:
> >
> > After discussing the transmission "spitting" issue with my "mechanical
> > team" (Jim the mechanic and Logan the transmission builder) it was
> suggested
> > that I take a second look at my transmission vent hose routing. I had
> the
> > hose going directly from the vent elbow on top of the transmission, to
> the
> > outside of the frame on the left side, going downhill all the way.
> >
> > The theory was that this routing was somehow creating a siphon condition
> > that was actually sucking fluid out of the vent. It really didn't make
> > sense, since the vent is at the top of the transmission and the only
> thing
> > that should come out of it would be a little air in the form of pressure
> > relief. I went with their suggestion and put a longer hose on the vent
> > with kind of a reverse trap in it. In other words, I routed the hose up
> > almost to the bottom of the floor, tying it to the back of the step,
> > before running it out the side.
> >
> > Problem solved.
> >
> > On our 950 mile Summer trip last month, no fluid was lost from the
> > transmission, in spite of several long pulls up 6% or steeper grades in
> > second gear
> > (at temperatures well in excess of 100 degrees). Part of that was the
> > same route (I-17 north of Phoenix) where I had the problem back in March.
> > There were several shorter trips in between those two, but I didn't want
> > to draw any conclusions until I took a longer trip.
> >
> > Hope this helps if anyone else has experienced this problem with their
> > transmissions.
> > --
> > Carl Stouffer
> > '75 ex Palm Beach
> > Tucson, AZ.
> > Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive,
> > Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American
> > Eagles,
> > Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
> >
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Ken,

I have a pill bottle (Costco size extra Strength Excedrin ;) ) on the hose as well. It filled up on the way to Camp Verde and again on the way home
last March. Since I have rerouted the vent hose, next to nothing. I can't explain why fluid was coming out of the vent, but it was.

Weird, huh?
--
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles,
Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member