Speed Bleeders

heinz wittenbecher

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I bought the Power Bleeder from Phoenix when I went to disk brakes and
replaced all the brakelines.

The best results I ultimately had was using the vacuum feature, i.e. 'suck'
the air out. As we can't get a straight shot to our master cylinders from
the top it's the only alternative to the brake pedal yelling exchange.

The biggest problem encountered was preventing air to get back into the
system as you take the next shot. We eventually used teflon tape on the
bleed screw to prevent air being sucked back in.

Only other piece of advice: make sure the bleedports are lined up vertically
so that all air can be evacuated. This really only applies top aftermarket
brakes (TSM at least). If the ports are not lined up there is no way to get
all the air out. Gravity bleed will also not get all air out as bubles
attach themselves to the brakeline walls and need help to let go. Of course
to get the bleedports lined up usually means taking the caliper off and
rotation/bleeding and then re-installing.

That's my dime's worth on what eventually worked for me when bleeding
totally from scratch, i.e. new brakelines all around and 4 disks on the
rear. (It took much more than a dime's worth of brakefluid :-)

Cheers

Heinz
'76 Transmode

- -----Original Message-----
From: Frank Folkmann
To: gmcmotorhome
Date: Sunday, December 20, 1998 4:05 AM
Subject: GMC: Speed Bleeders

>Summit catalog page 189 Russel Speed Bleeders let you bleed brake lines
>by your self.The speed bleeders have an internal check valve that will
>pump excess air and fluid out for you. When you are done just tighten
>the screw. Go onto next cylinder. Does any one have experience with this
>type of bleeder.
>
>Frank SW Indiana
>
>
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Just recently found out that "PHOENIX SYSTEM" makes their reverse
bleeder in three different price ranges. The less expensive plastic
pump model might be good enough for the little use that a GMC mechanic
has. Mostly, their downloadable manuals teach a lot about brake
bleeding.

Heinz - Did you also have to obtain longer grade 8 bolts for the TSM
kit like Manny had to. My winter project has not taken off yet. I
appreciate your comments and pictures

Herm

>
> I bought the Power Bleeder from Phoenix when I went to disk brakes and
> replaced all the brakelines.
>
> The best results I ultimately had was using the vacuum feature, i.e.
'suck'
> the air out. As we can't get a straight shot to our master cylinders
from
> the top it's the only alternative to the brake pedal yelling exchange.
>
> The biggest problem encountered was preventing air to get back into
the
> system as you take the next shot. We eventually used teflon tape on
the
> bleed screw to prevent air being sucked back in.
>
> Only other piece of advice: make sure the bleedports are lined up
vertically
> so that all air can be evacuated. This really only applies top
aftermarket
> brakes (TSM at least). If the ports are not lined up there is no way
to get
> all the air out. Gravity bleed will also not get all air out as bubles
> attach themselves to the brakeline walls and need help to let go. Of
course
> to get the bleedports lined up usually means taking the caliper off
and
> rotation/bleeding and then re-installing.
>
> That's my dime's worth on what eventually worked for me when bleeding
> totally from scratch, i.e. new brakelines all around and 4 disks on
the
> rear. (It took much more than a dime's worth of brakefluid :-)
>
> Cheers
>
> Heinz
> '76 Transmode
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Frank Folkmann
> To: gmcmotorhome
> Date: Sunday, December 20, 1998 4:05 AM
> Subject: GMC: Speed Bleeders
>
>
> >Summit catalog page 189 Russel Speed Bleeders let you bleed brake
lines
> >by your self.The speed bleeders have an internal check valve that
will
> >pump excess air and fluid out for you. When you are done just tighten
> >the screw. Go onto next cylinder. Does any one have experience with
this
> >type of bleeder.
> >
> >Frank SW Indiana
> >
> >
> >______________________________________________________
> >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
> >
>
>

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>Heinz - Did you also have to obtain longer grade 8 bolts for the TSM
>kit like Manny had to. My winter project has not taken off yet. I
>appreciate your comments and pictures
>
>Herm
>

Sorry Herm, I can't recall.

I don't think so. A trip to the store and chasing down bolts would surely
have stuck, even in this feeble mind. Should'a taken more pictures.

I also can't quite recall why I didn't buy one of the cheaper power
bleeders. I seem to recall that it was a feature decision, not only
construction.

And yes.... their downloadable manuals and tips can be of great value to
all. They really are great.

Heinz
 
>Just recently found out that "PHOENIX SYSTEM" makes their reverse
>bleeder in three different price ranges. The less expensive plastic
>pump model might be good enough for the little use that a GMC mechanic
>has. Mostly, their downloadable manuals teach a lot about brake
>bleeding.
.............snip.........

Where might I find these downloadable manuals please? Sounds like
something the rest of us might need to know.

Thanks

bdub
'76 Palm Beach
In The Heart o Texas
www.web-access.net/~bmassey/
icq # 202333
 
You can go to http://www.phxsyss.com/

J.R. Wright

>

> >Just recently found out that "PHOENIX SYSTEM" makes their reverse
> >bleeder in three different price ranges. The less expensive plastic
> >pump model might be good enough for the little use that a GMC mechanic
> >has. Mostly, their downloadable manuals teach a lot about brake
> >bleeding.
> .............snip.........
>
> Where might I find these downloadable manuals please? Sounds like
> something the rest of us might need to know.
>
> Thanks
>
> bdub
> '76 Palm Beach
> In The Heart o Texas
> www.web-access.net/~bmassey/
> icq # 202333
 
http://www.phxsyss.com/

>
> You can go to http://www.phxsyss.com/
>
> J.R. Wright
>

> >

> > >Just recently found out that "PHOENIX SYSTEM" makes their reverse
> > >bleeder in three different price ranges. The less expensive plastic
> > >pump model might be good enough for the little use that a GMC
mechanic
> > >has. Mostly, their downloadable manuals teach a lot about brake
> > >bleeding.
> > .............snip.........
> >
> > Where might I find these downloadable manuals please? Sounds like
> > something the rest of us might need to know.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > bdub
> > '76 Palm Beach
> > In The Heart o Texas
> > www.web-access.net/~bmassey/
> > icq # 202333
>

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