Sounds like

An electrolytic capacitor is a battery with a very low equivalent series resistance, or a storage battery is a very large electrolytic capacitor with
very high equivalent series resistance, take your pick. Jim Hupy, as an object lesson, take two lawn mower batteries, charge both. Run one down,
then swap electrolytes. repeat. Charge the one which isn't being run down,. Repeat. Report back how many cycles the batteries are capable of.

DOS Tip: It won't be very many.

--johnny
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Matt, I knew that. The plates absorb stuff that needs to be driven out by
charging the batteries. O.K. how about standard battery packs like a
cordless drill. Drive in, out comes the fork lift with the fresh battery
pack, drive off. Just a thought.
Jim Hupy

> > O.K. Here is one for you. Electric vehicles. Using today's technology.
> Lead acid batteries that can be drained of electrolyte. Pull into a
> > electrolyte changing station much like a gas station of today. Drain out
> the discharged electrolyte and replace it with freshly charged stuff. Drive
> > on. If we think on it, it is possible. Gasoline stations become
> centralized charging stations.
> > Jim Hupy
> > Salem, OR
> > 78 GMC Royale 403
>
> Jim,
>
> Sorry to tell you about this, but your plan has a weak point.
>
> In current lead/acid technology, it is not just the electrolyte that is
> depleted. The chemical composition of the plates is actually changed. That
> is the way the technology started in the 19th century and what is amazing
> is that there have been only minimal real improvements in all this time.
> The fact that newer batteries have more capacity than the older did is
> really only improvements in manufacturing processes.
>
> Matt
>
>
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The Tesla already offers a service to replace the battery pak. The range is 250 to 350 depending on your option.

They have a charging station halfway between San Francisco and Los Angeles. One could stop at the charging station and go to lunch while the battery is charging (about 1 hour). This is a free charge. Or you can pay $70 and they will change out the battery and replace it with a fully charged one. It takes 90 seconds.

You can pick up your charged battery on the way back home.

I have a friend in Longmont that recently bought a Telsa model S. With all the options he purchased it cost about $140,000.
What is that 7 to 14 decent GMCs?
He has the auto pilot , self parking, 240 and 120 volt chargers and other things. It has front and rear and side sensors which apply brakes and self steers to avoid collisions. It even backs out of the garage with a push of a button on a remote. After it goes off to park itself you retrieve it by pushing another button and it'll drive itself back from wherever it's parked to the place where you pushed the button. It also automatically parallel parks.

A bit pricy but it's a beautiful car and rides super smooth. 0 to 60 in about 2.5 seconds.

Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO

>
> Matt, I knew that. The plates absorb stuff that needs to be driven out by
> charging the batteries. O.K. how about standard battery packs like a
> cordless drill. Drive in, out comes the fork lift with the fresh battery
> pack, drive off. Just a thought.
> Jim Hupy
>

>>

>>> O.K. Here is one for you. Electric vehicles. Using today's technology.
>> Lead acid batteries that can be drained of electrolyte. Pull into a
>>> electrolyte changing station much like a gas station of today. Drain out
>> the discharged electrolyte and replace it with freshly charged stuff. Drive
>>> on. If we think on it, it is possible. Gasoline stations become
>> centralized charging stations.
>>> Jim Hupy
>>> Salem, OR
>>> 78 GMC Royale 403
>>
>> Jim,
>>
>> Sorry to tell you about this, but your plan has a weak point.
>>
>> In current lead/acid technology, it is not just the electrolyte that is
>> depleted. The chemical composition of the plates is actually changed. That
>> is the way the technology started in the 19th century and what is amazing
>> is that there have been only minimal real improvements in all this time.
>> The fact that newer batteries have more capacity than the older did is
>> really only improvements in manufacturing processes.
>>
>> Matt
>>
>>
>> --
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>> Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan
>> OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
>> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
>>
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> Matt, I knew that. The plates absorb stuff that needs to be driven out by charging the batteries. O.K. how about standard battery packs like a
> cordless drill. Drive in, out comes the fork lift with the fresh battery pack, drive off. Just a thought.
> Jim Hupy

Jim,

Some one proposed this during the Clinton times when he was trying to push a plan just like this. The idea was to have standard battery packs and
garages at regular intervals.

It never got off the ground for at least these two reasons that I recall:
The vehicle range was only about 50 miles. And
The weight of the battery banks (L/A then) was so high that it crippled the vehicle payload.

Mary's Canadian cousin (husband actually) has a Tesla and loves it. So far, there (Tesla's) super charger stations are working out well for him. He
even tows there A-liner with it.

Matt
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Matt,
> Some one proposed this during the Clinton times when he was trying to push a plan just like this. The idea was to have standard battery packs and
> garages at regular intervals.

Better Places, originally Israelian company, created those stations, and
worked together with the likes of Nissan. Unfortunately, they were a bit
too early and folded a year or two ago.

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Fox is currently televising the Formula New York City Eprix. I imagine this would be the current state of development in electrical technology.
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Pretty cool.. when battery gets low, swap cars. Pit stops are minimum 40 seconds.

> Fox is currently televising the Formula New York City Eprix. I imagine this would be the current state of development in electrical technology.

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