Concur. I buy parts from Gateway most of the time, Golby and Cinnebar depending
what they are. But I am going to tell a true story now. When I was rebuilding
the 455 most parts came from Mondellos in Paso Robles (close to me, no mail or ups
and a million dollars of advice, free). The parts that were actually needed for
the GMC were Gateway etc. When I got my hoses for the radiator the top hose was
not the right one. They were not terribly costly but I wanted to return the hose
to Gateway. What a hassle, they wanted the invoice, etc. Well I had them ship
them to the machinist shop in town not to my home. I paid the bill by credit card
as usual. But the BS to get them to take it back was intolerable. I finally just
hung up. Any body need a hose for a 403 set up. I paid 31.00 and would be happy
to let them have the $%^%^^)O#@ Thing if they could use it. Gateway wanted the
invoice etc. etc. etc. I know they had it in their computer but they wanted me to
hunt for it. I am not really as pissed as I sound I just have a very hard time
doing things sometime. I take Prozak, Tegretol, and fifteen other medications to
get by every day. I am not telling you this for sympathy nor do I want you to
take it that way. I just wanted you to know that some of the GMC suppliers just
do not seem to be interested in any thing other than the almighty $$$$. I am
really surprised that some of them have not gotten rid of their 800 numbers and
let us pay for the telephone calls too. My .25 Cents worth of Crap. Chuck
> In a message dated 11/28/98 6:34:50 PM Eastern Standard Time, warner
>
> > The GMC
> > motorhome is the only coach over 10 years old that is still fully supported
> > by the factory. Should we support them so they will stay in business?
>
> Thanks Tom!
>
> Why did you give me such a hard question to answer? From a guestimate on my
> part, there are five thousand of these little rascals still on the road. One
> electrons worth in the motorhome population. They have us by those really
> really really short hairs. I don't like that position and sometimes its
> uncomfortable too! However, what we do have in the owners of GMC motorhomes
> is probably the most organized, highly talented, educated, best back yard
> mechanics, risk takers in the whole United States. Now, I'm sure out of this
> group there are those in their field of expertise that would be able to
> fabricate or oversee having parts made. Do we need 5000 front wheel hubs
> designed with larger truck discs? Cad Cam and CNC make this process pretty
> simple. How much would Thorley charge for 300 hedders or 300 mufflers from
> Flowmaster? Who wants them? We need 300 sets of Alcoas this year. and 2100
> tires. 200 right and 200 left windshields? How many GMCers need new
> headliners, 4000? Do we need 5000 insurance policys? Who isn't on line? 400
> computers. And the list goes on! If we keep on going along like we are,
> buying one item at a time we all will be broke or at least I will be. Times
> have changed a great deal, the internet has done that. If I were Cinnabar or
> Gateway or the others, I'd lower my prices somewhat for the fear that this
> might actually happen----
> The Society of GMC Owners
>
> Initiation fee $500, $100/ yr , parts at cost plus 10%, labor at cost
> plus 10%., 2-20,000 sq ft bldgs called GMC Motorhome outposts. 5000 sq ft
> for parts, 10,000 service bays, 5000 living quarters while you work on your
> GMC or let staff mechanics do the work or just need a safe place to rest
> your head while out on the road. Tom, I took it this far now its your job
> along with Arch,Bob,Lanier,Jim,Ed,
> Doubleday,Bill,Dave,Jim,Boutell,Ingram,Henry,Nelson,Les,Des,Gene,Ritch,Betty,
> Rob,Chuck,Darren,Paul,Mark,Robin,Dick,Rick,Larry,Justin,Chuck, Scott and 4,967
> other Gmc owners.
>
> Scott Adohen
what they are. But I am going to tell a true story now. When I was rebuilding
the 455 most parts came from Mondellos in Paso Robles (close to me, no mail or ups
and a million dollars of advice, free). The parts that were actually needed for
the GMC were Gateway etc. When I got my hoses for the radiator the top hose was
not the right one. They were not terribly costly but I wanted to return the hose
to Gateway. What a hassle, they wanted the invoice, etc. Well I had them ship
them to the machinist shop in town not to my home. I paid the bill by credit card
as usual. But the BS to get them to take it back was intolerable. I finally just
hung up. Any body need a hose for a 403 set up. I paid 31.00 and would be happy
to let them have the $%^%^^)O#@ Thing if they could use it. Gateway wanted the
invoice etc. etc. etc. I know they had it in their computer but they wanted me to
hunt for it. I am not really as pissed as I sound I just have a very hard time
doing things sometime. I take Prozak, Tegretol, and fifteen other medications to
get by every day. I am not telling you this for sympathy nor do I want you to
take it that way. I just wanted you to know that some of the GMC suppliers just
do not seem to be interested in any thing other than the almighty $$$$. I am
really surprised that some of them have not gotten rid of their 800 numbers and
let us pay for the telephone calls too. My .25 Cents worth of Crap. Chuck
> In a message dated 11/28/98 6:34:50 PM Eastern Standard Time, warner
>
> > The GMC
> > motorhome is the only coach over 10 years old that is still fully supported
> > by the factory. Should we support them so they will stay in business?
>
> Thanks Tom!
>
> Why did you give me such a hard question to answer? From a guestimate on my
> part, there are five thousand of these little rascals still on the road. One
> electrons worth in the motorhome population. They have us by those really
> really really short hairs. I don't like that position and sometimes its
> uncomfortable too! However, what we do have in the owners of GMC motorhomes
> is probably the most organized, highly talented, educated, best back yard
> mechanics, risk takers in the whole United States. Now, I'm sure out of this
> group there are those in their field of expertise that would be able to
> fabricate or oversee having parts made. Do we need 5000 front wheel hubs
> designed with larger truck discs? Cad Cam and CNC make this process pretty
> simple. How much would Thorley charge for 300 hedders or 300 mufflers from
> Flowmaster? Who wants them? We need 300 sets of Alcoas this year. and 2100
> tires. 200 right and 200 left windshields? How many GMCers need new
> headliners, 4000? Do we need 5000 insurance policys? Who isn't on line? 400
> computers. And the list goes on! If we keep on going along like we are,
> buying one item at a time we all will be broke or at least I will be. Times
> have changed a great deal, the internet has done that. If I were Cinnabar or
> Gateway or the others, I'd lower my prices somewhat for the fear that this
> might actually happen----
> The Society of GMC Owners
>
> Initiation fee $500, $100/ yr , parts at cost plus 10%, labor at cost
> plus 10%., 2-20,000 sq ft bldgs called GMC Motorhome outposts. 5000 sq ft
> for parts, 10,000 service bays, 5000 living quarters while you work on your
> GMC or let staff mechanics do the work or just need a safe place to rest
> your head while out on the road. Tom, I took it this far now its your job
> along with Arch,Bob,Lanier,Jim,Ed,
> Doubleday,Bill,Dave,Jim,Boutell,Ingram,Henry,Nelson,Les,Des,Gene,Ritch,Betty,
> Rob,Chuck,Darren,Paul,Mark,Robin,Dick,Rick,Larry,Justin,Chuck, Scott and 4,967
> other Gmc owners.
>
> Scott Adohen
