new block
- Thread starter kosier
- Start date
VERY Interesting. Now we can build 600Old's instead of Cad500's!
(but I don't even want to hear the price)
Ken H.
> Has anyone noticed the new 455 block from Rocket Racing? It has many
> improvements.
>
> Gary Kosier
> 77PB w/500Cad
> Newark, Ohio
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(but I don't even want to hear the price)
Ken H.
> Has anyone noticed the new 455 block from Rocket Racing? It has many
> improvements.
>
> Gary Kosier
> 77PB w/500Cad
> Newark, Ohio
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So, what side is the starter located on?
On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 5:32 PM Ken Henderson
wrote:
> VERY Interesting. Now we can build 600Old's instead of Cad500's!
>
> (but I don't even want to hear the price)
>
> Ken H.
>
> On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 7:00 PM Gary Kosier
>
> > Has anyone noticed the new 455 block from Rocket Racing? It has many
> > improvements.
> >
> > Gary Kosier
> > 77PB w/500Cad
> > Newark, Ohio
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On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 5:32 PM Ken Henderson
wrote:
> VERY Interesting. Now we can build 600Old's instead of Cad500's!
>
> (but I don't even want to hear the price)
>
> Ken H.
>
> On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 7:00 PM Gary Kosier
>
> > Has anyone noticed the new 455 block from Rocket Racing? It has many
> > improvements.
> >
> > Gary Kosier
> > 77PB w/500Cad
> > Newark, Ohio
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Bruce,
the side the starter is based on the transmission.
Our 425 trans is on the passenger side. the non front drive unit is on the
driver side.
> So, what side is the starter located on?
>
> On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 5:32 PM Ken Henderson
>
> > VERY Interesting. Now we can build 600Old's instead of Cad500's!
> >
> > (but I don't even want to hear the price)
> >
> > Ken H.
> >
> > On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 7:00 PM Gary Kosier
> >
> > > Has anyone noticed the new 455 block from Rocket Racing? It has many
> > > improvements.
> > >
> > > Gary Kosier
> > > 77PB w/500Cad
> > > Newark, Ohio
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the side the starter is based on the transmission.
Our 425 trans is on the passenger side. the non front drive unit is on the
driver side.
> So, what side is the starter located on?
>
> On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 5:32 PM Ken Henderson
>
> > VERY Interesting. Now we can build 600Old's instead of Cad500's!
> >
> > (but I don't even want to hear the price)
> >
> > Ken H.
> >
> > On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 7:00 PM Gary Kosier
> >
> > > Has anyone noticed the new 455 block from Rocket Racing? It has many
> > > improvements.
> > >
> > > Gary Kosier
> > > 77PB w/500Cad
> > > Newark, Ohio
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Ken,
There is also a new Cadillac block supposedly being prototyped.
It will also be an improved version. Not a lot of details as of yet.
Gary Kosier
77PB w/500Cad
Newark, Ohio
--------------------------------------------------
From: "Ken Henderson"
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2018 7:30 PM
To: "GMC Mail List"
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] new block
> VERY Interesting. Now we can build 600Old's instead of Cad500's!
>
> (but I don't even want to hear the price)
>
> Ken H.
>
> On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 7:00 PM Gary Kosier
>
>> Has anyone noticed the new 455 block from Rocket Racing? It has many
>> improvements.
>>
>> Gary Kosier
>> 77PB w/500Cad
>> Newark, Ohio
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There is also a new Cadillac block supposedly being prototyped.
It will also be an improved version. Not a lot of details as of yet.
Gary Kosier
77PB w/500Cad
Newark, Ohio
--------------------------------------------------
From: "Ken Henderson"
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2018 7:30 PM
To: "GMC Mail List"
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] new block
> VERY Interesting. Now we can build 600Old's instead of Cad500's!
>
> (but I don't even want to hear the price)
>
> Ken H.
>
> On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 7:00 PM Gary Kosier
>
>> Has anyone noticed the new 455 block from Rocket Racing? It has many
>> improvements.
>>
>> Gary Kosier
>> 77PB w/500Cad
>> Newark, Ohio
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Jim K.,
That is what I was getting at. Do they have castings for both left and
right side starters?
Same for the Cadillac bock.
> Ken,
>
> There is also a new Cadillac block supposedly being prototyped.
> It will also be an improved version. Not a lot of details as of yet.
>
> Gary Kosier
> 77PB w/500Cad
> Newark, Ohio
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Ken Henderson"
> Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2018 7:30 PM
> To: "GMC Mail List"
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] new block
>
> > VERY Interesting. Now we can build 600Old's instead of Cad500's!
> >
> > (but I don't even want to hear the price)
> >
> > Ken H.
> >
> > On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 7:00 PM Gary Kosier
> >
> >> Has anyone noticed the new 455 block from Rocket Racing? It has many
> >> improvements.
> >>
> >> Gary Kosier
> >> 77PB w/500Cad
> >> Newark, Ohio
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That is what I was getting at. Do they have castings for both left and
right side starters?
Same for the Cadillac bock.
> Ken,
>
> There is also a new Cadillac block supposedly being prototyped.
> It will also be an improved version. Not a lot of details as of yet.
>
> Gary Kosier
> 77PB w/500Cad
> Newark, Ohio
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Ken Henderson"
> Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2018 7:30 PM
> To: "GMC Mail List"
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] new block
>
> > VERY Interesting. Now we can build 600Old's instead of Cad500's!
> >
> > (but I don't even want to hear the price)
> >
> > Ken H.
> >
> > On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 7:00 PM Gary Kosier
> >
> >> Has anyone noticed the new 455 block from Rocket Racing? It has many
> >> improvements.
> >>
> >> Gary Kosier
> >> 77PB w/500Cad
> >> Newark, Ohio
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> VERY Interesting. Now we can build 600Old's instead of Cad500's!
>
> (but I don't even want to hear the price)
>
> Ken H.
>
$4995 on the web site. They have a quantity field. How many do you want?
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1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
>
> (but I don't even want to hear the price)
>
> Ken H.
>
$4995 on the web site. They have a quantity field. How many do you want?
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1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
Bruce,
The starter bolts to the block on the left for rear drive setups, and bolts to the trans belhousing on the right side for the TH425. The blocks are all the same irregardless of drive configuration.
Les Burt
Montreal
'75 Eleganza 26'
>
>> VERY Interesting. Now we can build 600Old's instead of Cad500's!
>>
>> (but I don't even want to hear the price)
>>
>> Ken H.
>>
>
> $4995 on the web site. They have a quantity field. How many do you want?
> --
> Steve Southworth
> 1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
> 1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
> Palmyra WI
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The starter bolts to the block on the left for rear drive setups, and bolts to the trans belhousing on the right side for the TH425. The blocks are all the same irregardless of drive configuration.
Les Burt
Montreal
'75 Eleganza 26'
>
>> VERY Interesting. Now we can build 600Old's instead of Cad500's!
>>
>> (but I don't even want to hear the price)
>>
>> Ken H.
>>
>
> $4995 on the web site. They have a quantity field. How many do you want?
> --
> Steve Southworth
> 1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
> 1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
> Palmyra WI
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I believe that the question was being asked of the new engine block. Not
the existing ones. Originally, Olds stuck with a drivers side location for
the starter, it was a pain in the butt when swapping the engine into older
cars, particularly Fords of the 30's, 40's, due to interference with the
steering boxes.
When the 455's came out in the front wheel drive cars, engine swappers
rejoiced, for they switched the starter to the passenger side. They liked
the ELDORADO engines for the same reason.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC ROYALE 403
> Bruce,
> The starter bolts to the block on the left for rear drive setups, and
> bolts to the trans belhousing on the right side for the TH425. The blocks
> are all the same irregardless of drive configuration.
>
> Les Burt
> Montreal
> '75 Eleganza 26'
>
>
> > On Dec 17, 2018, at 8:57 AM, Steve Southworth
> >
> >> VERY Interesting. Now we can build 600Old's instead of Cad500's!
> >>
> >> (but I don't even want to hear the price)
> >>
> >> Ken H.
> >>
> >
> > $4995 on the web site. They have a quantity field. How many do you
> want?
> > --
> > Steve Southworth
> > 1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
> > 1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
> > Palmyra WI
> >
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the existing ones. Originally, Olds stuck with a drivers side location for
the starter, it was a pain in the butt when swapping the engine into older
cars, particularly Fords of the 30's, 40's, due to interference with the
steering boxes.
When the 455's came out in the front wheel drive cars, engine swappers
rejoiced, for they switched the starter to the passenger side. They liked
the ELDORADO engines for the same reason.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC ROYALE 403
> Bruce,
> The starter bolts to the block on the left for rear drive setups, and
> bolts to the trans belhousing on the right side for the TH425. The blocks
> are all the same irregardless of drive configuration.
>
> Les Burt
> Montreal
> '75 Eleganza 26'
>
>
> > On Dec 17, 2018, at 8:57 AM, Steve Southworth
> >
> >> VERY Interesting. Now we can build 600Old's instead of Cad500's!
> >>
> >> (but I don't even want to hear the price)
> >>
> >> Ken H.
> >>
> >
> > $4995 on the web site. They have a quantity field. How many do you
> want?
> > --
> > Steve Southworth
> > 1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
> > 1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
> > Palmyra WI
> >
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The starter mounts on the drivers side. However there looks to be enough
"meat" to drill and tap holes on the right side.
Sammy Williams
> I believe that the question was being asked of the new engine block. Not
> the existing ones. Originally, Olds stuck with a drivers side location for
> the starter, it was a pain in the butt when swapping the engine into older
> cars, particularly Fords of the 30's, 40's, due to interference with the
> steering boxes.
> When the 455's came out in the front wheel drive cars, engine swappers
> rejoiced, for they switched the starter to the passenger side. They liked
> the ELDORADO engines for the same reason.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Or
> 78 GMC ROYALE 403
>
>
> > Bruce,
> > The starter bolts to the block on the left for rear drive setups, and
> > bolts to the trans belhousing on the right side for the TH425. The blocks
> > are all the same irregardless of drive configuration.
> >
> > Les Burt
> > Montreal
> > '75 Eleganza 26'
> >
> >
> > > On Dec 17, 2018, at 8:57 AM, Steve Southworth
> > >
> > >> VERY Interesting. Now we can build 600Old's instead of Cad500's!
> > >>
> > >> (but I don't even want to hear the price)
> > >>
> > >> Ken H.
> > >>
> > >
> > > $4995 on the web site. They have a quantity field. How many do you
> > want?
> > > --
> > > Steve Southworth
> > > 1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
> > > 1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
> > > Palmyra WI
> > >
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"meat" to drill and tap holes on the right side.
Sammy Williams
> I believe that the question was being asked of the new engine block. Not
> the existing ones. Originally, Olds stuck with a drivers side location for
> the starter, it was a pain in the butt when swapping the engine into older
> cars, particularly Fords of the 30's, 40's, due to interference with the
> steering boxes.
> When the 455's came out in the front wheel drive cars, engine swappers
> rejoiced, for they switched the starter to the passenger side. They liked
> the ELDORADO engines for the same reason.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Or
> 78 GMC ROYALE 403
>
>
> > Bruce,
> > The starter bolts to the block on the left for rear drive setups, and
> > bolts to the trans belhousing on the right side for the TH425. The blocks
> > are all the same irregardless of drive configuration.
> >
> > Les Burt
> > Montreal
> > '75 Eleganza 26'
> >
> >
> > > On Dec 17, 2018, at 8:57 AM, Steve Southworth
> > >
> > >> VERY Interesting. Now we can build 600Old's instead of Cad500's!
> > >>
> > >> (but I don't even want to hear the price)
> > >>
> > >> Ken H.
> > >>
> > >
> > > $4995 on the web site. They have a quantity field. How many do you
> > want?
> > > --
> > > Steve Southworth
> > > 1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
> > > 1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
> > > Palmyra WI
> > >
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> $4995 on the web site. They have a quantity field. How many do you want?
Well,
Toss in:
4.500 billet crank 1895
7.100 Rods 545
Edelbrock heads 2390
And we don't even have the 4.400 pistons yet......
I think I'll just stick with my 461 thanks.
Matt
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OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
Well,
Toss in:
4.500 billet crank 1895
7.100 Rods 545
Edelbrock heads 2390
And we don't even have the 4.400 pistons yet......
I think I'll just stick with my 461 thanks.
Matt
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Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan
OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
The right side needs the toronado starter as the block does not have the
holes as it mounts to the trans.
> > $4995 on the web site. They have a quantity field. How many do you
> want?
>
> Well,
> Toss in:
> 4.500 billet crank 1895
> 7.100 Rods 545
> Edelbrock heads 2390
>
> And we don't even have the 4.400 pistons yet......
>
> I think I'll just stick with my 461 thanks.
>
> Matt
>
> --
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> Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan
> OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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holes as it mounts to the trans.
> > $4995 on the web site. They have a quantity field. How many do you
> want?
>
> Well,
> Toss in:
> 4.500 billet crank 1895
> 7.100 Rods 545
> Edelbrock heads 2390
>
> And we don't even have the 4.400 pistons yet......
>
> I think I'll just stick with my 461 thanks.
>
> Matt
>
> --
> Matt & Mary Colie - '73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
> Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan
> OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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