Need input on ordering the right converter!

Will Albers

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I have a https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000GASX9O/ref=psdc_583328_t5_B002XRU6FM
Intellipower
9200 charger that i run 24/7 when parked. I would like to add an automatic
12 to 120v inverter to a select number of my 120v outlet so they provide
120v while traveling - Just like Bruce mentioned above. Can i accomplish
this by swapping out my 9200 for a
https://www.progressivedyn.com/rv/power-centers/inteli-power-4000-series/#specifications,
and modification to my current A/C box? From what I'm reading in the 4000
series, it appears to do what i want, but why is it less expensive than the
9000? I have to be missing something.

-Will

On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 1:43 PM Bruce Hislop via Gmclist <

> Rich,
> You don't want to run everything electrical off your inverter, just some
> select low power items. For instance you don't want to run your air
> conditioner or electric water heater (if equipped) from the inverter, they
> just take too much power.
>
> My 1977 Palm Beach had several outlets that I wanted to power from the
> inverter. They all connected to a single breaker in the AC panel. I brought
> those wires out to a junction box to tie them together. I then added a
> new outlet beside the AC breaker box and powered it through the breaker
> which
> formally powered the outlets. From the junction box I wired a pigtail
> with a standard 120V plug. With this plug I could power my outlets using the
> new outlet beside the AC panel, or plug it into the outlet on my
> inverter. This was my poor-man's transfer switch. I'm sure I violated
> several
> electrical wiring rules doing this, but electrically it works fine.
>
> With the new combination charger/inverter, it plugs into the new outlet
> beside the AC breaker panel... this powers the charger side of the unit. My
> pigtail plug goes into the outlet on the EVO-1212. When the EVO detect
> shore power AC, it passes this power to its outlet which then powers my
> outlets. When the AC shore power drops out, it internally connects its
> inverter side to its outlet (internal automatic transfer switch) to continue
> to power my outlets.
>
> Power for the Air Conditioner, electric water heater etc only come from
> the shore power cord and are not powered by the inverter.
>
> JWID
>
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> Additional questions on this topic:
>
> I have a https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000GASX9O/ref=psdc_583328_t5_B002XRU6FM Intellipower 9200 charger that i run 24/7 when parked. I would like to
> add an automatic 12 to 120v inverter to a select number of my 120v outlet so they provide 120v while traveling - Just like Bruce mentioned above.
> Can i accomplish this by swapping out my 9200 for a https://www.progressivedyn.com/rv/power-centers/inteli-power-4000-series/#specifications,
> and modification to my current A/C box? From what I'm reading in the 4000 series, it appears to do what i want, but why is it less expensive than
> the
> 9000? I have to be missing something.
>
> -Will

Will,

I do not believe that the PD 4000 series include an inverter or transfer switch of any kind.

There are inverters with built in transfer capability, but I don't know who makes them.

Matt
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Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan
OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
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You don’t need a supply of fresh air. The fan in a PD converter just keeps
localized heat off the internal voltage regulator. Mine is plugged in
continuously even in the summer when my uncovered coach’s inside
temperature exceeds 120 degrees.

Also, a separate 12-volt panel is inexpensive, and easy to install. Just
run wires from the converter to the panel input, and move the wiring. I
didn’t even have to extend any wires, because the PD converter was smaller
than the previous buzz box (which also had an internal fuse block), and the
new panel fit where the internal panel had been.

Picture here:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/electrical-wiring-concepts-for-2773-230/p26978-house-12-volt-wiring-panel-2c-2008.html

The pendant on the PD converters that don’t have the internal charge wizard
IS the charge wizard, and it’s what makes it a four-stage charger. It’s
required to make the PD unit better than a buzz box. In the PD converters
that have the internal charge wizard, the pendant provides manual stage
control and a visual indicator of the charging stage, and is optional but
nice to have. I don’t remember the model numbering scheme that
distinguished those with and without, but I think it was 91xx (without)
versus 92xx (with).

I wanted a separate inverter, because those seem to fail on a different
schedule from converters, and I keep mine loose rather than writing it in
permanently. I use the inverter for my CPAP machine and for computers, and
it’s a true sine-wave inverter.

Rick “an easy installation in the grand scheme of GMC projects” Denney

On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 9:23 PM tonka6cuda6--- via Gmclist <

> Dang im getting a headache reading all the info on converter/chargers and
> inverter/chargers, makes, models etc.....this would be such a "no brainer"
> if they hadnt put in a converter with fused circuits built into it and
> just followed GM's lead and kept them seperate :(
>
> Im also not sure if having a unit with a fan inside the cabinet without a
> fresh air source is a good idea....if i need to go the fresh air route i may
> as well rip it all out, put in a power center (with seperable converter
> for replacement) as i have to window the cabinet door anyways and i can
> still
> hide it all.....
>
> What to do....
>
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>
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>
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Thanks Matt,

Since i already have a charger, and an inverter... It seems this is my best
bet:
https://www.amazon.com/Xantrex-8080915-PROwatt-Transfer-Switch/dp/B004S5Y158/ref=sr_1_4?crid=WYTCNOP5QKJB&keywords=power+inverter+transfer+switch&qid=1569087247&s=automotive&sprefix=power+inverter+tra%2Cautomotive%2C183&sr=1-4

I could attach a female socket on one lead and a male on the other. Plug it
into a standard coach outlet (like what the fridge runs off of) and my
inverter. Make the priority lead the male end and problem solved.

May have answered my own question =)

On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 10:15 AM Matt Colie via Gmclist <

> > Additional questions on this topic:
> >
> > I have a
> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000GASX9O/ref=psdc_583328_t5_B002XRU6FM
> Intellipower 9200 charger that i run 24/7 when parked. I would like to
> > add an automatic 12 to 120v inverter to a select number of my 120v
> outlet so they provide 120v while traveling - Just like Bruce mentioned
> above.
> > Can i accomplish this by swapping out my 9200 for a
> https://www.progressivedyn.com/rv/power-centers/inteli-power-4000-series/#specifications
> ,
> > and modification to my current A/C box? From what I'm reading in the
> 4000 series, it appears to do what i want, but why is it less expensive than
> > the
> > 9000? I have to be missing something.
> >
> > -Will
>
> Will,
>
> I do not believe that the PD 4000 series include an inverter or transfer
> switch of any kind.
>
> There are inverters with built in transfer capability, but I don't know
> who makes them.
>
> Matt
> --
> Matt & Mary Colie - '73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
> Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan
> OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
>
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> Thanks Matt,
>
> Since i already have a charger, and an inverter... It seems this is my best
> bet:
> I could attach a female socket on one lead and a male on the other. Plug it
> into a standard coach outlet (like what the fridge runs off of) and my
> inverter. Make the priority lead the male end and problem solved.
>
> May have answered my own question =)

Will,

I think you pretty much have.
I might worry about the switch time for a reefer, but I honestly have no way of knowing.
If it does do well, tell me and I will get one for my reefer.

Matt
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Matt & Mary Colie - '73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan
OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit