Honda EV4010/6010

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Anyone have a napkin drawing of how they hooked it up to their coach that they can share? My coach is a Hughes and i dont schematics for this ...i
have the GMC ones though but this is a very different unit.

I have a meter but chassing wires with a meter, through the window at 10 degrees F is not my idea of fun when your shooting blind.
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Rich Mondor,

Brockville, ON

77 Hughes 2600
 
Might need a little more detail on what you are trying to figure out? the A/C side of the unit, or the control(start/stop)?

I only know the ev6010, but I am sure the 4010 is similar. It has 2 hot legs, and 2 neutrals, and a ground. but they are pretty well internally
connected, so you can think of it has having just a single hot, single neutral, and the ground.

for my GM, I have the 50 amp outlet, so I have one of each of the hots that leave the coach connected to each hot leg of that 50 amp. the neutrals
are wire nutted together and tied to the single neutral on the outlet, and then of course you have the ground leg.

you might have something different on your coach.

as for the control, there are 4 wires. there is schematics for the onan switches. and also for the pin out of the honda plug on side of the
control box at the generator. I just matched function for function.

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Jon Roche
75 palm beach
EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now.
St. Cloud, MN
http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
 
> Might need a little more detail on what you are trying to figure out? the A/C side of the unit, or the control(start/stop)?
>
> I only know the ev6010, but I am sure the 4010 is similar. It has 2 hot legs, and 2 neutrals, and a ground. but they are pretty well
> internally connected, so you can think of it has having just a single hot, single neutral, and the ground.
>
> for my GM, I have the 50 amp outlet, so I have one of each of the hots that leave the coach connected to each hot leg of that 50 amp. the
> neutrals are wire nutted together and tied to the single neutral on the outlet, and then of course you have the ground leg.
>
> you might have something different on your coach.
>
>
> as for the control, there are 4 wires. there is schematics for the onan switches. and also for the pin out of the honda plug on side of the
> control box at the generator. I just matched function for function.

The A/C side really as the stop/start is going to be from the coach control panel which i know is very different than anyones......but i think with
the Honda manual i can figure that one out (4 wires). The A/c side on the other hand is a little more messy as it appears that the coach had a battery
connected to the junction for house power (house battery up front) as well as the 30amp recepticle to plug the generator cable into. One would think
there would only be a couple wires down there but there is a pile of them.
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Rich Mondor,

Brockville, ON

77 Hughes 2600
 
It may be 10f and you may have to wait for warm... but you ought to get your 'Fox N Hound' out and find out where those wires go.

--johnny
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Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
 
I am still trying to understand the question.

is there a transfer switch somewhere?

usually you plug the coach A/C cord, into either Shore power, or the generator. So the A/C wiring of the Generator is usually hooked up to a
Female receptacle. and you would then plug the coach cord into that recepticle.

you confuse me as to the "battery".... that is 12volts DC. The honda basically has one 12v hot wire terminal, and you hook the big ground to the
chassis, for starting power/cranking. It has ability to charge a battery, but that wire (smaller one going into a plug on the control box) should
be cut on the harness, as it could potentially try to overcharge and burn the stator. use the coach Converter/charger and or the engine alternator to
do any 12v battery charging.

this is detailed in Pinella power videos. if you are not familair with them, they tell you everything about the honda 6010 you need to know:

https://www.pinellaspowerproducts.com/gallery/

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Jon Roche
75 palm beach
EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now.
St. Cloud, MN
http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
 
> I am still trying to understand the question.
>
> is there a transfer switch somewhere?
>
> usually you plug the coach A/C cord, into either Shore power, or the generator. So the A/C wiring of the Generator is usually hooked up to a
> Female receptacle. and you would then plug the coach cord into that recepticle.
>
>
> you confuse me as to the "battery".... that is 12volts DC. The honda basically has one 12v hot wire terminal, and you hook the big ground to
> the chassis, for starting power/cranking. It has ability to charge a battery, but that wire (smaller one going into a plug on the control box)
> should be cut on the harness, as it could potentially try to overcharge and burn the stator. use the coach Converter/charger and or the engine
> alternator to do any 12v battery charging.
>
> this is detailed in Pinella power videos. if you are not familair with them, they tell you everything about the honda 6010 you need to know:
>
> https://www.pinellaspowerproducts.com/gallery/

Id post a pic but its to big.....ill email it to you directly.

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Rich Mondor,

Brockville, ON

77 Hughes 2600
 
> It may be 10f and you may have to wait for warm... but you ought to get your 'Fox N Hound' out and find out where those wires go.
>
> --johnny

Spent to many years wrenching in the cold...my fingers dont move anymore at those temps.
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Rich Mondor,

Brockville, ON

77 Hughes 2600
 
why the fox n hound beats a meter inthe cold - you can wear mittens

--johnny
--
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
 
Hughes still exist, i think as repair only. Perhaps you could call them or email them tosee if they have any info. My sob was sold new in 1977 by
hughes.
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DAVE KING
lurker, wannabe
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
 
Thanks for the reply Dave....funny thing is did but havent heard anything back from them as of yet.
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Rich Mondor,

Brockville, ON

77 Hughes 2600
 
Rich, there's a Motorhome Show early in the New Ywar in Toronto. If you haven't heard from Hughes
perhaps you could check the show info and see if Hughes is showing as a Exhibitor.
That's how I discovered they area still around.
DK
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DAVE KING
lurker, wannabe
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
 
You have to determine if coach is 125/250 as with 14-50 or is it just TT-30 with 125V
You have to determine is generator is 125/250 or 125V only.

Once we have that info we can proceed. .
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John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
 
My coach is 30 amp/120v for sure.

Gen is 50amp not 30/20 and i beleive they are only 120v and you can leg it for 2 x 120v per leg or 120v single (depends on how you connect internal
wiring).....correct me if im wrong... im just looking at the install manual.
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Rich Mondor,

Brockville, ON

77 Hughes 2600
 
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