Help needed. Located on I76 in Ohio west bound welcome center rest area

[jared and stefanie kohl]

Went to leave this am and the coach would not move unless we gave it a lot of power. It eventually would shift but isn't shifting out of first. I had
an extra governor gear but can't find it and am afraid it may have been left at home in a box that was taken inside.

I checked the transmission fluid level and it was low. I added a pint and then drove it around the rest area but still was having the no power almost
like it was slipping. I checked the fluid level again and it was under the add 1 pint line still so I added another pint. But here we sit now trying
to find that damn gear.

Phone num is two oh two 4 eight nine 77 five four

Checking the black list now as well.

--
Jared & Stefanie Kohl
Rappahannock County, VA
1973 Painted Desert "Onslow"

 

[Rdenney]

Check the vacuum line to the modulator, which runs down the right side of
the engine.

Make sure your parking brake is not stuck, though I'm not sure the parking
brake, even when working, is effective enough to make it that difficult to
move.

Do you have any visible leaks? That includes leaks from the chain case, the
pan, and the modulator.

Since it was sudden, and the fault appeared while the coach was stopped,
I'm guessing a vacuum hose or bad modulator.

Rick "who still carries a spare modulator" Denney

On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 9:08 AM, Jared & Stefanie Kohl <

> Went to leave this am and the coach would not move unless we gave it a lot
> of power. It eventually would shift but isn't shifting out of first. I had
> an extra governor gear but can't find it and am afraid it may have been
> left at home in a box that was taken inside.
>
> I checked the transmission fluid level and it was low. I added a pint and
> then drove it around the rest area but still was having the no power almost
> like it was slipping. I checked the fluid level again and it was under the
> add 1 pint line still so I added another pint. But here we sit now trying
> to find that damn gear.
>
> Phone num is two oh two 4 eight nine 77 five four
>
> Checking the black list now as well.
>
>
> --
> Jared & Stefanie Kohl
> Rappahannock County, VA
> 1973 Painted Desert "Onslow"
>
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[jim kanomata1]

On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 6:08 AM Jared & Stefanie Kohl
wrote:

> Went to leave this am and the coach would not move unless we gave it a lot
> of power. It eventually would shift but isn't shifting out of first. I had
> an extra governor gear but can't find it and am afraid it may have been
> left at home in a box that was taken inside.
>
> I checked the transmission fluid level and it was low. I added a pint and
> then drove it around the rest area but still was having the no power almost
> like it was slipping. I checked the fluid level again and it was under the
> add 1 pint line still so I added another pint. But here we sit now trying
> to find that damn gear.
>
> Phone num is two oh two 4 eight nine 77 five four
>
> Checking the black list now as well.
>
>
> --
> Jared & Stefanie Kohl
> Rappahannock County, VA
> 1973 Painted Desert "Onslow"
>
> Don't be afraid to go over

Full

Check you vaccine line to modulate .
If your omometer works don't wast time on governor.
I'm. Leaving to go up gym till 8:30 but calll my offic and have them give
you Manny T ovaios phone# he will assist you

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[jared and stefanie kohl]

Def not the governor. Added trans oil and we're back on the road. Going 60m/h at 2200rpm (normal cruising rpm is 1800). We'll pull off at the next
opportunity and check the modulator and look for leaks. (Oil add was because it hadn't been checked in a few thousand miles)
--
Jared & Stefanie Kohl
Rappahannock County, VA
1973 Painted Desert "Onslow"

 

[Jim Hupy]

Jared, closely check the Temps on your final drive, inner and outer CV
joints and front hubs. Also, ebrake cables for sticking or binding.
Finally, rear brakes and hub bearing temps. Sumthin' ain't right.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC ROYALE 403

On Jun 21, 2017 7:15 AM, "Jared & Stefanie Kohl"
wrote:

> Def not the governor. Added trans oil and we're back on the road. Going
> 60m/h at 2200rpm (normal cruising rpm is 1800). We'll pull off at the next
> opportunity and check the modulator and look for leaks. (Oil add was
> because it hadn't been checked in a few thousand miles)
> --
> Jared & Stefanie Kohl
> Rappahannock County, VA
> 1973 Painted Desert "Onslow"
>
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[john r. lebetski]

He says won't go not won't shift so low fluid is the right place to look. Are you checking it RUNNING in park? If you are checking improperly with
engine off it will be under filled. Must be running. Just making sure.
--
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II

 

[jared and stefanie kohl]

Checked while running in Park on level ground. Ended up adding 4 pints. There is a leak when we stopped.

On the road now. Less power than normal though. Talked to Tom Hampton and he said to check the fan clutch. Opened up the hatch with the engine running and watched the fan as we turned it off. The fan stopped immediately.

We're now back on the road and in search of a fan clutch.

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On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 10:54, John R. Lebetski

He says won't go not won't shift so low fluid is the right place to look. Are you checking it RUNNING in park? If you are checking improperly with
engine off it will be under filled. Must be running. Just making sure.
--
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II

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[jared and stefanie kohl]

Does anyone have the part number hanfy for the heavy duty fan clutch? (I think OEM was severe duty but I've been told that's overkill)
--
Jared & Stefanie Kohl
Rappahannock County, VA
1973 Painted Desert "Onslow"

 

[johnny]

Remembering my coach with the stock 3.07 gearing, 2200 - 2250 was what I'd see cruising 60-62mph. 1800 seems mighty low. Unless you have really big
tyres on it.

--johnny
--
76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
"I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell" - ol Andy, paraphrased

 

[roy keen]

If you find a clutch fan at say autozone or a competitor and 2797 is part of their part number that is the heavy duty clutch fan you would be looking
for..
--
Roy Keen
Minden,NV
76 X Glenbrook

 

[jared and stefanie kohl]

Hmmm... maybe I'm just hyper aware right now and over analyzing it. You might be right. The fan clutch is def stuck though bec I can feel the power suck while driving.

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On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 11:44, Johnny Bridges via Gmclist

Remembering my coach with the stock 3.07 gearing, 2200 - 2250 was what I'd see cruising 60-62mph. 1800 seems mighty low. Unless you have really big
tyres on it.

--johnny
--
76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
"I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell" - ol Andy, paraphrased

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[jim kanomata1]

A stuck fan clutch will convince you to think the trans is slipping.
Tom Hampton is correct.
Fan clutch , just ask for a HD one for a 76 Toronado.
Call me and Ill guid you through a easier way to swap it.

> Hmmm... maybe I'm just hyper aware right now and over analyzing it. You
> might be right. The fan clutch is def stuck though bec I can feel the power
> suck while driving.
>
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> On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 11:44, Johnny Bridges via Gmclist

> Remembering my coach with the stock 3.07 gearing, 2200 - 2250 was what I'd
> see cruising 60-62mph. 1800 seems mighty low. Unless you have really big
> tyres on it.
>
> --johnny
> --
> 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
> Braselton, Ga.
> "I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me
> in hell" - ol Andy, paraphrased
>
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[LarryW]

The only negative thing that a "stuck" fan clutch will do is "ROAR", give you the sense of loss of power, and reduce gas milage. Won't really hurt
anything. Drive it home and worry about it there. JMHO
--
Larry
78 Royale w/500 Caddy
Menomonie, WI.

 

[jared and stefanie kohl]

Home is about 3 weeks of driving away though. Since we're on the front end of the trip, prob be best to take care of it sooner rather than later.
--
Jared & Stefanie Kohl
Rappahannock County, VA
1973 Painted Desert "Onslow"

 

[johnny]

Yeh, stuff another clutch on. And be glad the low fluid showed up before you drove it low and burned a clutch or two... which ain't fixable roadside.
It won't survive low fluid for very long.

--johnny
--
76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
"I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell" - ol Andy, paraphrased

 

[LQQKatJon]

Not a good way to start your big trip. Yellowstone right??

Ok. Fan hayden part #clutch you want. =. 2747. That is the "heavy duty"

Oreilies should list a murrey part same number. Other parts stores may have to do some searching to cross ref the hayden #'s

The one you dont want is the 2797= severe duty.

If you want a 2797, swing through mn and i you can have the one i took out when i got confused on numbers.
--
Jon Roche
75 palm beach
St. Cloud, MN
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[jared and stefanie kohl]

Of course now we've got a bit of a leak Of tranny fluid every time we stop (and seems to be a consistent drip)... prob how we got low to begin with.

Anyone along the 80/90 corridor that wouldn't mind a drop in?

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On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 13:51, Johnny Bridges via Gmclist

Yeh, stuff another clutch on. And be glad the low fluid showed up before you drove it low and burned a clutch or two... which ain't fixable roadside.
It won't survive low fluid for very long.

--johnny
--
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Braselton, Ga.
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[johnny]

Constant drip = crawl under and find it. If you have any rubber in the cooling lines (no longer OEM hardlines) suspect it. Check the overflow... if
it's putting fluid out it will run down the transmission and drip. Lookit the pan edges - you got to wipe it clean first, any leak will run around
the edge of the pan. Check where the dipstick tube fits in the back edge od the final drive... if the o-rinng dies or breaks it can leak there.
While you're under it looking, take a wrench and remove the modulator and set the 'full' fluid per instructions. It may just be over full. Call
Manny for advice.

--johnny
--
76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
"I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell" - ol Andy, paraphrased

 

[kerry pinkerton]

Jared, inspect the O-ring at the bottom of the tranny filler tube. A bad O-ring caused my fluid leak that ate a 4000mile Manny Tranny. I was parked
on gravel and never noticed the leak until it lost the high gear clutches.
--
Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama

77 Eleganza II, 403CI, Manny Brakes, 1 ton, tranny, lots of aluminum goodies.

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