Headlights (was Save the GMC Molds!)

[kab7]

I'm separating this out into its own topic since it's not related to the GMC molds...

I recently installed HELLA 002395301 Conversion Headlights in our coach.
The advantage is they take a standard HB2 bulb (included), which gives you a much wider selection (HB2/9003/HB4).
They're also a heck of a lot brighter.
https://www.amazon.com/HELLA-002395301-Halogen-Conversion-Headlamp/dp/B0002M9QK6

I was going to also replace the wiring harness with one that includes new relays, as others have done, but found I didn't need to. I did have to trim
the plastic shroud from the OEM headlight plug to get them to fit, and of course cleaned up the old connectors.
Going forward, it's much easier to replace a burned out bulb than a whole sealed beam headlight.

There are lots of other "Conversion" headlight kits available, but I got these because they're street legal, not crazy expensive, a known brand, and
about the same power draw as stock.

Karen
1975 26'

 

[kab7]

I'm separating this out into its own topic since it's not related to the GMC molds...

I recently installed HELLA 002395301 Conversion Headlights in our coach.
The advantage is they take a standard HB2 bulb (included), which gives you a much wider selection (HB2/9003/HB4).
They're also a heck of a lot brighter.
https://www.amazon.com/HELLA-002395301-Halogen-Conversion-Headlamp/dp/B0002M9QK6

I was going to also replace the wiring harness with one that includes new relays, as others have done, but found I didn't need to. I did have to trim
the plastic shroud from the OEM headlight plug to get them to fit, and of course cleaned up the old connectors.
Going forward, it's much easier to replace a burned out bulb than a whole sealed beam headlight.

There are lots of other "Conversion" headlight kits available, but I got these because they're street legal, not crazy expensive, a known brand, and
about the same power draw as stock.

Karen
1975 26'

 

[jerry work]

I'm separating this out into its own topic since it's not related to the GMC molds...

I recently installed HELLA 002395301 Conversion Headlights in our coach.
The advantage is they take a standard HB2 bulb (included), which gives you a much wider selection (HB2/9003/HB4).
They're also a heck of a lot brighter.
https://www.amazon.com/HELLA-002395301-Halogen-Conversion-Headlamp/dp/B0002M9QK6

I was going to also replace the wiring harness with one that includes new relays, as others have done, but found I didn't need to. I did have to trim
the plastic shroud from the OEM headlight plug to get them to fit, and of course cleaned up the old connectors.
Going forward, it's much easier to replace a burned out bulb than a whole sealed beam headlight.

There are lots of other "Conversion" headlight kits available, but I got these because they're street legal, not crazy expensive, a known brand, and
about the same power draw as stock.

Karen
1975 26’
----------------------

 

[d c *mac* macdonald]

I'm separating this out into its own topic since it's not related to the GMC molds...

I recently installed HELLA 002395301 Conversion Headlights in our coach.
The advantage is they take a standard HB2 bulb (included), which gives you a much wider selection (HB2/9003/HB4).
They're also a heck of a lot brighter.
https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FHELLA-002395301-Halogen-Conversion-Headlamp%2Fdp%2FB0002M9QK6&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cbe95f31e10fe487097b108d616bc4ab1%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636721395288588247&sdata=CSHBPM9A2anT4W4JMxlAnOT82CVgrbhTsEzOCMFUGl8%3D&reserved=0

I was going to also replace the wiring harness with one that includes new relays, as others have done, but found I didn't need to. I did have to trim
the plastic shroud from the OEM headlight plug to get them to fit, and of course cleaned up the old connectors.
Going forward, it's much easier to replace a burned out bulb than a whole sealed beam headlight.

There are lots of other "Conversion" headlight kits available, but I got these because they're street legal, not crazy expensive, a known brand, and
about the same power draw as stock.

Karen
1975 26’

 

[kab7]

As someone else pointed out, our headlights are 7" (about 178mm), but that amazon link from my order says 165mm... Not sure why.
The actual order invoice from Amazon says:
HELLA 002395301 Vision Plus 176mm High/Low Beam 12V Halogen Conversion Headlamp (HB2)

Sorry for the confusion.

Karen
1975 26'

 

[kab7]

The part number, HELLA 002395301, is correct for a Hella 7" Vision Plus conversion headlight, SAE/DOT legal in the US.
I don't know why Amazon shows it as 165mm.

Here's a better description:
http://www.myhellalights.com/index.php/products/auxiliary-lamps/sealed-beam-conversion-headlamps/vision-plus-7in-conversion-headlamp/

hope that helps,
Karen
1975 26'

 

[joe ricke]

Thanks Karen

This looks to be a simple method to upgrade headlights. Appreciate the info
--
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Arden Hills, MN
'77 Transmode

 

[Ken B]

Here is a pair of what I think you want for $66.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B001G72SKQ/ref=olp_twister_child?ie=UTF8&mv_style_name=2

--
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana

 

[joe ricke]

Ken

That's the kit I ordered. Will try to remember to report back fit and ease of installation.

Joe
--
Joe Ricke - KE0CPM
Arden Hills, MN
'77 Transmode

 

[kab7]

> Here is a pair of what I think you want for $66.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B001G72SKQ/ref=olp_twister_child?ie=UTF8&mv_style_name=2
>
> Same thing on ebay $1.00 cheaper
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/221865880760?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&fromMakeTrack=true

The only reason I didn't go for that kit is it says H4 instead of HB2 and may not have "DOT" on the glass. Probably makes no difference though.

Karen
1975 26'

 

[kab7]

> Ken
>
> That's the kit I ordered. Will try to remember to report back fit and ease of installation.
>
> Joe

The hardest part for me was getting the old rusty screws out and cutting the plastic shroud off the stock connectors. I found it easier to remove
the pins from the connectors and cut the plastic on the bench. If I recall, there are two sets of screws on the headlights -- one holds the
headlight in, the other sets the angles. If you leave the adjustment screws alone, you shouldn't have to mess with alignment (assuming they're
correct to begin with).

Karen
1975 26'

 

[d c *mac* macdonald]

This is a repeat plea for info on source(s) of DOT approved 5" x 7" rectangular LED headlights.

D C "Mac" Macdonald
Amateur Radio K2GKK​
Since 30 November '53​
USAF and FAA, Retired​
Member GMCMI & Classics​
Oklahoma City, OK​
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[powwerjon]

Mac,

Go to Ebay

Type in: 5” x 7" rectangular LED headlights

There are a large number of headlights listed and most are DOT approved.

Do the same for Amazon.

The choice is yours.

J.R. Wright
GMC Great Laker MHC
GMCGL Tech Editor
GMC Eastern States Charter Member
GMCMI
78 GMC Buskirk 30’ Stretch
75 GMC Avion (Under Reconstruction)
Michigan

>
> This is a repeat plea for info on source(s) of DOT approved 5" x 7" rectangular LED headlights.
>
> D C "Mac" Macdonald
> Amateur Radio K2GKK​
> Since 30 November '53​
> USAF and FAA, Retired​
> Member GMCMI & Classics​
> Oklahoma City, OK​
> "The Money Pit"​
> TZE166V101966​
> '76 ex-Palm Beach​
> k2gkk + hotmail dot com
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[Tom Newell]

Grote

Won't be cheap; will be good.

The 5"X7" variety

https://www.grote.com/products/90951-5-grote-5-7-led-sealed-beam-replacement-headlight/

https://www.amazon.com/Grote-90951-5-Sealed-Beam-Headlights/dp/B00QB0CCU4

The whole Grote Forward Lighting Sealed Beam Headlights (has the other varieties):

https://www.grote.com/family/led-sealed-beam-headlights/?prodcat=forward-lighting

Tom Newell
San Pedro, California

 

[d c *mac* macdonald]

The customer reviews on these was luke warm at best! Really low light levels and way too expensive. I found a set of Osrams at $95 for the pair that were very highly rated by almost 90 customer reviews. 8000 lumen on high beam and 56oo lumen on low beam. Very sharp vertical cutoff to greatly reduce glare to oncoming drivers.

Bought on Amazon with Prime Membership. Will have them by 13 Sep.

D C "Mac" Macdonald
Amateur Radio K2GKK​
Since 30 November '53​
USAF and FAA, Retired​
Member GMCMI & Classics​
Oklahoma City, OK​
"The Money Pit"​
TZE166V101966​
'76 ex-Palm Beach​
k2gkk + hotmail dot com
________________________________
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Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 12:47
To: gmclist
Cc: Tom Newell
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Headlights (was Save the GMC Molds!)

Grote

Won't be cheap; will be good.

The 5"X7" variety

https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.grote.com%2Fproducts%2F90951-5-grote-5-7-led-sealed-beam-replacement-headlight%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ccacf35b6b43e4339815208d6180ee4cb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636722849571113096&sdata=Az6j%2BLEOnSQmu%2Boza3ht5OfvDDvrR0%2BQyQIKOpjokdA%3D&reserved=0

https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FGrote-90951-5-Sealed-Beam-Headlights%2Fdp%2FB00QB0CCU4&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ccacf35b6b43e4339815208d6180ee4cb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636722849571113096&sdata=0Ommf2RL6Lt%2F2SdhFYKmOL7m8%2BuQAoNCQuTpZ%2Ftzg2M%3D&reserved=0

The whole Grote Forward Lighting Sealed Beam Headlights (has the other varieties):

https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.grote.com%2Ffamily%2Fled-sealed-beam-headlights%2F%3Fprodcat%3Dforward-lighting&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ccacf35b6b43e4339815208d6180ee4cb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636722849571113096&sdata=HLC%2FOz%2BdiA7w8HNqxnDfMzcADO%2F9E0kz6RHdETTS0j8%3D&reserved=0

Tom Newell
San Pedro, California

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[powwerjon]

Mac,
I was looking in Amazon for the items and have not been able to source them. Lots of Osram replacement lamps and a limited number of complete assemblies. What was the model number or do you have a shortcut.

JR Wright
Michigan

>
> The customer reviews on these was luke warm at best! Really low light levels and way too expensive. I found a set of Osrams at $95 for the pair that were very highly rated by almost 90 customer reviews. 8000 lumen on high beam and 56oo lumen on low beam. Very sharp vertical cutoff to greatly reduce glare to oncoming drivers.
>
> Bought on Amazon with Prime Membership. Will have them by 13 Sep.
>
> D C "Mac" Macdonald
> Amateur Radio K2GKK​
> Since 30 November '53​
> USAF and FAA, Retired​
> Member GMCMI & Classics​
> Oklahoma City, OK​
> "The Money Pit"​
> TZE166V101966​
> '76 ex-Palm Beach​
> k2gkk + hotmail dot com
> ________________________________
> From: Gmclist on behalf of Tom Newell via Gmclist
> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 12:47
> To: gmclist
> Cc: Tom Newell
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Headlights (was Save the GMC Molds!)
>
> Grote
>
> Won't be cheap; will be good.
>
>
> The 5"X7" variety
>
> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.grote.com%2Fproducts%2F90951-5-grote-5-7-led-sealed-beam-replacement-headlight%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ccacf35b6b43e4339815208d6180ee4cb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636722849571113096&sdata=Az6j%2BLEOnSQmu%2Boza3ht5OfvDDvrR0%2BQyQIKOpjokdA%3D&reserved=0
>
> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FGrote-90951-5-Sealed-Beam-Headlights%2Fdp%2FB00QB0CCU4&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ccacf35b6b43e4339815208d6180ee4cb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636722849571113096&sdata=0Ommf2RL6Lt%2F2SdhFYKmOL7m8%2BuQAoNCQuTpZ%2Ftzg2M%3D&reserved=0
>
>
>
> The whole Grote Forward Lighting Sealed Beam Headlights (has the other varieties):
>
> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.grote.com%2Ffamily%2Fled-sealed-beam-headlights%2F%3Fprodcat%3Dforward-lighting&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ccacf35b6b43e4339815208d6180ee4cb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636722849571113096&sdata=HLC%2FOz%2BdiA7w8HNqxnDfMzcADO%2F9E0kz6RHdETTS0j8%3D&reserved=0
>
> Tom Newell
> San Pedro, California
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[terry1]

The third or fourth page in the search for "qsram":
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BWBRDJ5/ref=sxbs_sxwds-stppvp_3?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=d45777d6-4c64-4117-8332-1659db52e64f&pd_rd_wg=HoVIT&pf_rd_r=638AA8EYQ28HS4S6ZX8R&pf_rd_s=desktop-sx-bottom-slot&pf_rd_t=301&pd_rd_i=B07BWBRDJ5&pd_rd_w=RbQbI&pf_rd_i=osram&pd_rd_r=8df29149-a961-4fab-a690-83b64852f6c7&ie=UTF8&qid=1536759274&sr=3

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73 Glacier 260

Smithfield, Va.

 

[d c *mac* macdonald]

Terry Kelpien's message later today (at 9:03) has the correct reference. If not, I'll post the actual Osram part number after I receive my shipment later today.

D C "Mac" Macdonald​
Amateur Radio K2GKK​
Since 30 November '53​
USAF and FAA, Retired​
Member GMCMI & Classics​
Oklahoma City, OK​
"The Money Pit"​
TZE166V101966​
'76 ex-Palm Beach​
k2gkk + hotmail dot com​

________________________________
From: Gmclist on behalf of John Wright
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 06:05
To: gmclist
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Headlights (was Save the GMC Molds!)

Mac,
I was looking in Amazon for the items and have not been able to source them. Lots of Osram replacement lamps and a limited number of complete assemblies. What was the model number or do you have a shortcut.

JR Wright
Michigan

>
> The customer reviews on these was luke warm at best! Really low light levels and way too expensive. I found a set of Osrams at $95 for the pair that were very highly rated by almost 90 customer reviews. 8000 lumen on high beam and 56oo lumen on low beam. Very sharp vertical cutoff to greatly reduce glare to oncoming drivers.
>
> Bought on Amazon with Prime Membership. Will have them by 13 Sep.
>
> D C "Mac" Macdonald
> Amateur Radio K2GKK​
> Since 30 November '53​
> USAF and FAA, Retired​
> Member GMCMI & Classics​
> Oklahoma City, OK​
> "The Money Pit"​
> TZE166V101966​
> '76 ex-Palm Beach​
> k2gkk + hotmail dot com
> ________________________________
> From: Gmclist on behalf of Tom Newell via Gmclist
> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 12:47
> To: gmclist
> Cc: Tom Newell
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Headlights (was Save the GMC Molds!)
>
> Grote
>
> Won't be cheap; will be good.
>
>
> The 5"X7" variety
>
> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.grote.com%2Fproducts%2F90951-5-grote-5-7-led-sealed-beam-replacement-headlight%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ccacf35b6b43e4339815208d6180ee4cb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636722849571113096&sdata=Az6j%2BLEOnSQmu%2Boza3ht5OfvDDvrR0%2BQyQIKOpjokdA%3D&reserved=0
>
> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FGrote-90951-5-Sealed-Beam-Headlights%2Fdp%2FB00QB0CCU4&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ccacf35b6b43e4339815208d6180ee4cb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636722849571113096&sdata=0Ommf2RL6Lt%2F2SdhFYKmOL7m8%2BuQAoNCQuTpZ%2Ftzg2M%3D&reserved=0
>
>
>
> The whole Grote Forward Lighting Sealed Beam Headlights (has the other varieties):
>
> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.grote.com%2Ffamily%2Fled-sealed-beam-headlights%2F%3Fprodcat%3Dforward-lighting&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ccacf35b6b43e4339815208d6180ee4cb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636722849571113096&sdata=HLC%2FOz%2BdiA7w8HNqxnDfMzcADO%2F9E0kz6RHdETTS0j8%3D&reserved=0
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> Tom Newell
> San Pedro, California
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[dmumert]

Here is a link to 5X7 headlights
https://headlightrevolution.com/headlights/replacement-headlight-housings/sealed-beam-headlight-upgrades/5x7-rectangular-sealed-beam-headlight-housings/

The main site is HeadlightRevolution
https://headlightrevolution.com/

They have reviews on LED replacement bulbs and LED headlights.

Here are a couple of 7inch LED reviews
JW Speaker 8700 Evo 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQQoptdOlNw

Truck-Lite 27170C
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syCRMmV0-Bg

They have many other reviews on USA made and off-shore lights.

LED headlight are not cheap, but you already have cheap lights.

Dave Mumert

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Olds, AB

 

[Will Albers]

Love the look of the rectangles! Where would one find replacement surrounds
that allow for rectangular lights? Applied?

> Here is a link to 5X7 headlights
>
> https://headlightrevolution.com/headlights/replacement-headlight-housings/sealed-beam-headlight-upgrades/5x7-rectangular-sealed-beam-headlight-housings/
>
> The main site is HeadlightRevolution
> https://headlightrevolution.com/
>
> They have reviews on LED replacement bulbs and LED headlights.
>
> Here are a couple of 7inch LED reviews
> JW Speaker 8700 Evo 2
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQQoptdOlNw
>
> Truck-Lite 27170C
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syCRMmV0-Bg
>
> They have many other reviews on USA made and off-shore lights.
>
> LED headlight are not cheap, but you already have cheap lights.
>
> Dave Mumert
>
>
>
>
>
> --
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