Fellow has a ev6010 for 1200 dollers obo...has 295 hrs om it....Is this a reasonable price?...brian 77 ele 455...winnipeg
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Not a great deal, but in range. 6010 craigslist ads are getting fairly rare here in the southeast. Those I do see run from $600 to $1000 --sometimes
$1200, but usually with higher hours. Be sure to ask for the muffler, if available.
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$1200, but usually with higher hours. Be sure to ask for the muffler, if available.
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76 Birchaven Coachmen Side Wet Bath
76 Eleganza
Elizabeth City, NC
thanks for advice
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Not a great deal, but in range. 6010 craigslist ads are getting fairly rare here in the southeast. Those I do see run from $600 to $1000 --sometimes
$1200, but usually with higher hours. Be sure to ask for the muffler, if available.
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76 Birchaven Coachmen Side Wet Bath
76 Eleganza
Elizabeth City, NC
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Not a great deal, but in range. 6010 craigslist ads are getting fairly rare here in the southeast. Those I do see run from $600 to $1000 --sometimes
$1200, but usually with higher hours. Be sure to ask for the muffler, if available.
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I would source a newer inverter set if I were to do it again.
The EV6010 has a LOT of praise around here, but frankly I am not happy with the noise. Everyone says "it's not louder than the Onan just a different
sound because it's 3600 rpm".
Bull crap. The EV6010 sounds like a lawnmower at max rpm at all times. The only time it's tolerable is when you're driving. The Onan is considerably
quieter. Also the noise comes from the fan and the engine itself, so muffler changes don't much do anything.
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The EV6010 has a LOT of praise around here, but frankly I am not happy with the noise. Everyone says "it's not louder than the Onan just a different
sound because it's 3600 rpm".
Bull crap. The EV6010 sounds like a lawnmower at max rpm at all times. The only time it's tolerable is when you're driving. The Onan is considerably
quieter. Also the noise comes from the fan and the engine itself, so muffler changes don't much do anything.
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Justin Brady
http://www.thegmcrv.com/
1976 Palm Beach 455
You will find that all the small inverter gensets run at 3600 rpm. No easy way out. A well insulated genset compartment will keep the noise level
down. Also, you really need to add a flexible mounting pad between the genset and the frame of the vehicle. If you open up one of the Honda small
inverter gensets, you will notice typical Honda attention to detail, vibration isolation and noise reduction. Chinese sets skimp on these
non-visible items.
Honda's water cooling system also adds to noise reduction.
Yes, I can hear it run, but with roof air running, you have competing noise levels.
I think that $1200 is a very fair price. Put load on it while running before you finalize the deal. A known good rebuild is about $2500 on the low end
and $5000+ on the high end. I paid $5000 to have two rebuilt by Pinallas.
Tom, MS II with ev6010 installed and isolated.
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down. Also, you really need to add a flexible mounting pad between the genset and the frame of the vehicle. If you open up one of the Honda small
inverter gensets, you will notice typical Honda attention to detail, vibration isolation and noise reduction. Chinese sets skimp on these
non-visible items.
Honda's water cooling system also adds to noise reduction.
Yes, I can hear it run, but with roof air running, you have competing noise levels.
I think that $1200 is a very fair price. Put load on it while running before you finalize the deal. A known good rebuild is about $2500 on the low end
and $5000+ on the high end. I paid $5000 to have two rebuilt by Pinallas.
Tom, MS II with ev6010 installed and isolated.
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If an inverter set runs at 3600, you get the worst of both worlds - a fixed high speed engine, but you can't take advantage of the inertia in the
engine for startup loads because of the inverter in the way. The whole idea is for the engine speed to match the load, as in the Ryobi and a couple
of others we had. The surge capability of an inverter set is limited to the current capacity of the devices switching the DC it produces. My take on
the Honda EV series is they're well put together, but overly complex and expensive due to being liquid cooled. They make more noise than my Onan or
the variable speed Junkerac I had, marginally less than the Harbor Freight one I replaced it with. You pays your money and you takes
your choice.
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engine for startup loads because of the inverter in the way. The whole idea is for the engine speed to match the load, as in the Ryobi and a couple
of others we had. The surge capability of an inverter set is limited to the current capacity of the devices switching the DC it produces. My take on
the Honda EV series is they're well put together, but overly complex and expensive due to being liquid cooled. They make more noise than my Onan or
the variable speed Junkerac I had, marginally less than the Harbor Freight one I replaced it with. You pays your money and you takes
your choice.
--johnny
--
76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
"I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell" - ol Andy, paraphrased
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The chinese set I put in the 23' had the same vibration as it did in its contractor clothes, using the same isolation mounts. It wasn't
onerous. Had I kept the coach I could have gotten the noise level down at least to Onan spec, the bulk of it was from the intake and the air filter
needed relocating anyway - it would have been quite easy to make a silencer for it. The muffler was remoted to the back bumper and sent what little
exhaust noise there was out the rear. This left a whirring noise from the three fans - one engine, one alternator and one electric I mounted on the
bay door. I suspect a bit of damped baffling would quiet them as well. As installed it wasn't a problem to sleep with it and the roof A/C running in
a rear bath coach, had it stayed here I could have gotten it to the A/C noise only.
--johnny
--
76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
"I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell" - ol Andy, paraphrased
onerous. Had I kept the coach I could have gotten the noise level down at least to Onan spec, the bulk of it was from the intake and the air filter
needed relocating anyway - it would have been quite easy to make a silencer for it. The muffler was remoted to the back bumper and sent what little
exhaust noise there was out the rear. This left a whirring noise from the three fans - one engine, one alternator and one electric I mounted on the
bay door. I suspect a bit of damped baffling would quiet them as well. As installed it wasn't a problem to sleep with it and the roof A/C running in
a rear bath coach, had it stayed here I could have gotten it to the A/C noise only.
--johnny
--
76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
"I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell" - ol Andy, paraphrased
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My Generac is like most inverter generators--it maintains engine speed at
minimum value to generate the required power. I suspect 3600 is the top
end, only when being asked to generate all 3600 watts. I hear that only
when running the AC and water heater at the same time (3300 watts for those
two plus whatever the converter is drawing)--something I only do for deep
exercise. With just the AC, it's noticeably less. Mine makes significantly
less noise outside the coach than Ken's Troy-Bilt, but it's right under the
bed and one does both hear and feel it. It's really no noisier than the
Onan, and certainly doesn't vibrate more.
Despite that Ken believes he led me down the garden path with that Generac,
and despite that I did have to replace the shaft speed sensor at only 70
hours, I'm happy with it, considering the alternatives. An automatic
transfer switch that delays switching until the generator stabilizes (about
30 seconds) was very good for the Generac.
One used to have to pay a quarter to get a vibrating bed.
Rick "but the inverter sprays RF on all bands and in all directions" Denney
On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 1:32 PM Johnny Bridges via Gmclist <
> The chinese set I put in the 23' had the same vibration as it did
> in its contractor clothes, using the same isolation mounts. It wasn't
> onerous. Had I kept the coach I could have gotten the noise level down at
> least to Onan spec, the bulk of it was from the intake and the air filter
> needed relocating anyway - it would have been quite easy to make a
> silencer for it. The muffler was remoted to the back bumper and sent what
> little
> exhaust noise there was out the rear. This left a whirring noise from the
> three fans - one engine, one alternator and one electric I mounted on the
> bay door. I suspect a bit of damped baffling would quiet them as well.
> As installed it wasn't a problem to sleep with it and the roof A/C running
> in
> a rear bath coach, had it stayed here I could have gotten it to the A/C
> noise only.
>
> --johnny
> --
> 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
> Braselton, Ga.
> "I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me
> in hell" - ol Andy, paraphrased
>
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minimum value to generate the required power. I suspect 3600 is the top
end, only when being asked to generate all 3600 watts. I hear that only
when running the AC and water heater at the same time (3300 watts for those
two plus whatever the converter is drawing)--something I only do for deep
exercise. With just the AC, it's noticeably less. Mine makes significantly
less noise outside the coach than Ken's Troy-Bilt, but it's right under the
bed and one does both hear and feel it. It's really no noisier than the
Onan, and certainly doesn't vibrate more.
Despite that Ken believes he led me down the garden path with that Generac,
and despite that I did have to replace the shaft speed sensor at only 70
hours, I'm happy with it, considering the alternatives. An automatic
transfer switch that delays switching until the generator stabilizes (about
30 seconds) was very good for the Generac.
One used to have to pay a quarter to get a vibrating bed.
Rick "but the inverter sprays RF on all bands and in all directions" Denney
On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 1:32 PM Johnny Bridges via Gmclist <
> The chinese set I put in the 23' had the same vibration as it did
> in its contractor clothes, using the same isolation mounts. It wasn't
> onerous. Had I kept the coach I could have gotten the noise level down at
> least to Onan spec, the bulk of it was from the intake and the air filter
> needed relocating anyway - it would have been quite easy to make a
> silencer for it. The muffler was remoted to the back bumper and sent what
> little
> exhaust noise there was out the rear. This left a whirring noise from the
> three fans - one engine, one alternator and one electric I mounted on the
> bay door. I suspect a bit of damped baffling would quiet them as well.
> As installed it wasn't a problem to sleep with it and the roof A/C running
> in
> a rear bath coach, had it stayed here I could have gotten it to the A/C
> noise only.
>
> --johnny
> --
> 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
> Braselton, Ga.
> "I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me
> in hell" - ol Andy, paraphrased
>
>
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I'm not sure its any louder. My big thing is that the Honda is not worn out and is dependable. I can deal with a little noise but not the noise that
happens when we stop for lunch and its 90 degrees and the AC won't work because the Onan is being fussy. Life is too short.
Personally, $1200 for a good running Honda that doesn't smoke strikes me as a good deal.
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happens when we stop for lunch and its 90 degrees and the AC won't work because the Onan is being fussy. Life is too short.
Personally, $1200 for a good running Honda that doesn't smoke strikes me as a good deal.
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77 Eleganza II, 403CI, Manny Brakes, 1 ton, tranny, lots of aluminum goodies.
http://www.bdub.net/pinkerton/
'03 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
Kerry, that's why I installed the Generac. Too many life-minutes being
devoted to the troll, and even when it worked, it covered the back third of
the coach with a sheen of oil. Not that that really made the coach look any
worse, of course. After removing it, I also no longer listed to port--the
Onan weighed fully four times what the Generac weighs.
I bet the Honda is also just a fraction of the weight of the Onan 6K Power
Drawer.
Rick "agreeing that a good-running $1200 solution looks pretty good" Denney
On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 3:05 PM, Kerry Pinkerton
wrote:
> I'm not sure its any louder. My big thing is that the Honda is not worn
> out and is dependable. I can deal with a little noise but not the noise
> that
> happens when we stop for lunch and its 90 degrees and the AC won't work
> because the Onan is being fussy. Life is too short.
>
> Personally, $1200 for a good running Honda that doesn't smoke strikes me
> as a good deal.
> --
> Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama
>
> 77 Eleganza II, 403CI, Manny Brakes, 1 ton, tranny, lots of aluminum
> goodies.
>
> http://www.bdub.net/pinkerton/
>
> '03 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
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devoted to the troll, and even when it worked, it covered the back third of
the coach with a sheen of oil. Not that that really made the coach look any
worse, of course. After removing it, I also no longer listed to port--the
Onan weighed fully four times what the Generac weighs.
I bet the Honda is also just a fraction of the weight of the Onan 6K Power
Drawer.
Rick "agreeing that a good-running $1200 solution looks pretty good" Denney
On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 3:05 PM, Kerry Pinkerton
wrote:
> I'm not sure its any louder. My big thing is that the Honda is not worn
> out and is dependable. I can deal with a little noise but not the noise
> that
> happens when we stop for lunch and its 90 degrees and the AC won't work
> because the Onan is being fussy. Life is too short.
>
> Personally, $1200 for a good running Honda that doesn't smoke strikes me
> as a good deal.
> --
> Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama
>
> 77 Eleganza II, 403CI, Manny Brakes, 1 ton, tranny, lots of aluminum
> goodies.
>
> http://www.bdub.net/pinkerton/
>
> '03 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
>
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As much as I dislike the noise, it does start and run reliably and I don't have to worry about it or tinker with it like the Onan. That's worth it
right there.
I'm just saying if I were doing it again if still get rid of the Onan, but spend a little more on something a little more modern and quiet.
I was really just disappointed that everything I read here said it was nice and quiet. I think everyone spent the money and just wanted to make
themselves feel better by validating that. Of all the words I'd use to describe it (convenient,reliable, Honda) quiet or pleasant are not on the list.
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1976 Palm Beach 455
right there.
I'm just saying if I were doing it again if still get rid of the Onan, but spend a little more on something a little more modern and quiet.
I was really just disappointed that everything I read here said it was nice and quiet. I think everyone spent the money and just wanted to make
themselves feel better by validating that. Of all the words I'd use to describe it (convenient,reliable, Honda) quiet or pleasant are not on the list.
--
Justin Brady
http://www.thegmcrv.com/
1976 Palm Beach 455
Justin,
You were disappointed because you relied on "OPO" - Other People's Opinions
regarding the noise level.
While it's a moot point (Honda's out of production) it would be nice to have
some hard data regarding the sound levels produced by the various units,
does anyone have access to sound measuring equipment?
If not anyone willing to buy this unit:
Tiny URL: http://tinyurl.com/lxnkhkq
Full URL:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Digital-LCD-Sound-Level-Meter-30-130dB-Decibel-Monit
oring-Noise-Measurement-AU-/252952470724?hash=item3ae52464c4:g:45oAAOSwn-tZI
ydb
Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
USAussie - Downunder
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
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From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces] On Behalf Of Justin
Brady
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 7:10 AM
To: gmclist
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As much as I dislike the noise, it does start and run reliably and I don't
have to worry about it or tinker with it like the Onan. That's worth it
right there.
I'm just saying if I were doing it again if still get rid of the Onan, but
spend a little more on something a little more modern and quiet.
I was really just disappointed that everything I read here said it was nice
and quiet. I think everyone spent the money and just wanted to make
themselves feel better by validating that. Of all the words I'd use to
describe it (convenient,reliable, Honda) quiet or pleasant are not on the
list.
--
Justin Brady
http://www.thegmcrv.com/
1976 Palm Beach 455
You were disappointed because you relied on "OPO" - Other People's Opinions
regarding the noise level.
While it's a moot point (Honda's out of production) it would be nice to have
some hard data regarding the sound levels produced by the various units,
does anyone have access to sound measuring equipment?
If not anyone willing to buy this unit:
Tiny URL: http://tinyurl.com/lxnkhkq
Full URL:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Digital-LCD-Sound-Level-Meter-30-130dB-Decibel-Monit
oring-Noise-Measurement-AU-/252952470724?hash=item3ae52464c4:g:45oAAOSwn-tZI
ydb
Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
USAussie - Downunder
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
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From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces] On Behalf Of Justin
Brady
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 7:10 AM
To: gmclist
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] ev6010
As much as I dislike the noise, it does start and run reliably and I don't
have to worry about it or tinker with it like the Onan. That's worth it
right there.
I'm just saying if I were doing it again if still get rid of the Onan, but
spend a little more on something a little more modern and quiet.
I was really just disappointed that everything I read here said it was nice
and quiet. I think everyone spent the money and just wanted to make
themselves feel better by validating that. Of all the words I'd use to
describe it (convenient,reliable, Honda) quiet or pleasant are not on the
list.
--
Justin Brady
http://www.thegmcrv.com/
1976 Palm Beach 455
Honda ev series weighs about 1/2 the weight of Onan. Interesting that Honda specs show the ev4010 weighs a bit more than the ev6010 and is about 1"
taller.
Mine may be a bit quieter because of a custom exhaust system. Muffler is mounted on the passenger side, exhausting behind the OEM tailpipe.
Tom, MS II
--
1975 GMC Avion
KA4CSG
taller.
Mine may be a bit quieter because of a custom exhaust system. Muffler is mounted on the passenger side, exhausting behind the OEM tailpipe.
Tom, MS II
--
1975 GMC Avion
KA4CSG
Rob, I have an app for my iPhone that not only measures sound pressure
level, but provides real-time spectrum analysis. Lots cheaper than a
hardware device, especially for such a limited application. Should be
useful, given that the differences are reported as being sensitive to the
frequency. Maybe in Elkhart, we can conduct a test.
Rick "but it won't explain subjective reaction" Denney
> Justin,
>
> You were disappointed because you relied on "OPO" - Other People's Opinions
> regarding the noise level.
>
> While it's a moot point (Honda's out of production) it would be nice to
> have
> some hard data regarding the sound levels produced by the various units,
> does anyone have access to sound measuring equipment?
>
> If not anyone willing to buy this unit:
>
> Tiny URL: http://tinyurl.com/lxnkhkq
>
> Full URL:
>
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Digital-LCD-Sound-Level-Meter-30-130dB-Decibel-Monit
>
> oring-Noise-Measurement-AU-/252952470724?hash=item3ae52464c4:g:45oAAOSwn-tZI
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Digital-LCD-Sound-Level-Meter-30-130dB-Decibel-Monitoring-Noise-Measurement-AU-/252952470724?hash=item3ae52464c4:g:45oAAOSwn-tZI
> ydb
>
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> The Pedantic Mechanic
> USAussie - Downunder
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
> USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces] On Behalf Of Justin
> Brady
> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 7:10 AM
> To: gmclist
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] ev6010
>
> As much as I dislike the noise, it does start and run reliably and I don't
> have to worry about it or tinker with it like the Onan. That's worth it
> right there.
> I'm just saying if I were doing it again if still get rid of the Onan, but
> spend a little more on something a little more modern and quiet.
>
> I was really just disappointed that everything I read here said it was
> nice
> and quiet. I think everyone spent the money and just wanted to make
> themselves feel better by validating that. Of all the words I'd use to
> describe it (convenient,reliable, Honda) quiet or pleasant are not on the
> list.
>
> --
> Justin Brady
> http://www.thegmcrv.com/
> 1976 Palm Beach 455
>
>
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level, but provides real-time spectrum analysis. Lots cheaper than a
hardware device, especially for such a limited application. Should be
useful, given that the differences are reported as being sensitive to the
frequency. Maybe in Elkhart, we can conduct a test.
Rick "but it won't explain subjective reaction" Denney
> Justin,
>
> You were disappointed because you relied on "OPO" - Other People's Opinions
> regarding the noise level.
>
> While it's a moot point (Honda's out of production) it would be nice to
> have
> some hard data regarding the sound levels produced by the various units,
> does anyone have access to sound measuring equipment?
>
> If not anyone willing to buy this unit:
>
> Tiny URL: http://tinyurl.com/lxnkhkq
>
> Full URL:
>
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Digital-LCD-Sound-Level-Meter-30-130dB-Decibel-Monit
>
> oring-Noise-Measurement-AU-/252952470724?hash=item3ae52464c4:g:45oAAOSwn-tZI
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Digital-LCD-Sound-Level-Meter-30-130dB-Decibel-Monitoring-Noise-Measurement-AU-/252952470724?hash=item3ae52464c4:g:45oAAOSwn-tZI
> ydb
>
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> The Pedantic Mechanic
> USAussie - Downunder
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
> USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces] On Behalf Of Justin
> Brady
> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 7:10 AM
> To: gmclist
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] ev6010
>
> As much as I dislike the noise, it does start and run reliably and I don't
> have to worry about it or tinker with it like the Onan. That's worth it
> right there.
> I'm just saying if I were doing it again if still get rid of the Onan, but
> spend a little more on something a little more modern and quiet.
>
> I was really just disappointed that everything I read here said it was
> nice
> and quiet. I think everyone spent the money and just wanted to make
> themselves feel better by validating that. Of all the words I'd use to
> describe it (convenient,reliable, Honda) quiet or pleasant are not on the
> list.
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> 1976 Palm Beach 455
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The 6010 noise is a higher frequency than the Onan. Higher frequencies are easier to attenuate than the low frequency hum from the Onan. You need lots of heavy mass like lead and Sheetrock to absorb low frequency energy. So properly insulated you can make the Honda much quieter than the Onan . I have had then both and my Honda is much quieter. It also help to be deaf to higher frequencies! With all the the self help videos and Paul's support at Pinellas I'll take the Honda every time. I think $1200 on a unit with less than 300 hours is a bargain.
Jon Darcy ACES
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Jon Darcy ACES
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For the record these are exactly the comments that I'm talking about :d
With the onan running correctly with a good exhaust and no leaks, you can stand beside it and carry on a conversation.
The Honda, not so much.
I have run both side by side in the shop.
Inside the coach is a different story than outside, I've got 4 layers of sound deadening material, 4" of spray foam, and a 10" memory foam mattress
between me and the genset, it's OK inside.
Outside though I am very self conscious about running it when there are other people within a couple hundred yards. Sounds like someone is mowing the
lawn at 90 mph :lol:
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Justin Brady
http://www.thegmcrv.com/
1976 Palm Beach 455
With the onan running correctly with a good exhaust and no leaks, you can stand beside it and carry on a conversation.
The Honda, not so much.
I have run both side by side in the shop.
Inside the coach is a different story than outside, I've got 4 layers of sound deadening material, 4" of spray foam, and a 10" memory foam mattress
between me and the genset, it's OK inside.
Outside though I am very self conscious about running it when there are other people within a couple hundred yards. Sounds like someone is mowing the
lawn at 90 mph :lol:
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Justin Brady
http://www.thegmcrv.com/
1976 Palm Beach 455
Could just be a matter of perspective then. For my purposes, the Honda is quieter. We use the generator going down the road and that's about it. So I
don't care if it is louder outside. I do care if it is louder inside, and it's not. Plus it does something my Onan, despite a ton of time and money,
failed to do. Start consistently when needed. So I'm probably a little more forgiving of the sound, which I do agree is a much higher pitched and
irritating noise if you are standing next to the units running side by side outside.
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Jeremy Knezek
1976 Glenbrook
Birmingham, AL
don't care if it is louder outside. I do care if it is louder inside, and it's not. Plus it does something my Onan, despite a ton of time and money,
failed to do. Start consistently when needed. So I'm probably a little more forgiving of the sound, which I do agree is a much higher pitched and
irritating noise if you are standing next to the units running side by side outside.
--
Thanks,
Jeremy Knezek
1976 Glenbrook
Birmingham, AL
With all the quiet inverter units out there right now, has anyone done anything about fitting them to a coach?
We picked up a 3kW inverter Honda for our real estate biz. It's incredibly quiet.
Dolph Santorine
DE AD0LF
Wheeling, West Virginia
1977 ex-Palm Beach TZE167V100820
1-ton, Sullybuilt Bags, Reaction Arms, 3.70 LSD, Manny Transmission, EV-6010,
>
> Could just be a matter of perspective then. For my purposes, the Honda is quieter. We use the generator going down the road and that's about it. So I
> don't care if it is louder outside. I do care if it is louder inside, and it's not. Plus it does something my Onan, despite a ton of time and money,
> failed to do. Start consistently when needed. So I'm probably a little more forgiving of the sound, which I do agree is a much higher pitched and
> irritating noise if you are standing next to the units running side by side outside.
> --
> Thanks,
> Jeremy Knezek
> 1976 Glenbrook
> Birmingham, AL
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We picked up a 3kW inverter Honda for our real estate biz. It's incredibly quiet.
Dolph Santorine
DE AD0LF
Wheeling, West Virginia
1977 ex-Palm Beach TZE167V100820
1-ton, Sullybuilt Bags, Reaction Arms, 3.70 LSD, Manny Transmission, EV-6010,
>
> Could just be a matter of perspective then. For my purposes, the Honda is quieter. We use the generator going down the road and that's about it. So I
> don't care if it is louder outside. I do care if it is louder inside, and it's not. Plus it does something my Onan, despite a ton of time and money,
> failed to do. Start consistently when needed. So I'm probably a little more forgiving of the sound, which I do agree is a much higher pitched and
> irritating noise if you are standing next to the units running side by side outside.
> --
> Thanks,
> Jeremy Knezek
> 1976 Glenbrook
> Birmingham, AL
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I know JimB worked on this for a while a few years back. There were problems with picking up the heavy start up load for things like AC units. Perhaps
the tech has progressed to where this is more feasible now.
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Jeremy Knezek
1976 Glenbrook
Birmingham, AL
the tech has progressed to where this is more feasible now.
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Jeremy Knezek
1976 Glenbrook
Birmingham, AL
I just starting looking into this, and they rate the sound level at dB-A weighted at 23 feet?
Specsmanship from the marketing department at it’s finest. Simply amazing.
Kind of like how tight should that fastner be? One grunt or two?
Furlongs per Fortnight.
Dolph
DE AD0LF
Wheeling, West Virginia
1977 26’ ex-PalmBeach
1-Ton, Sullybilt Bags, Reaction Arms, 3.70 LSD, Manny Transmission, EV-6010
“The Aluminum and Fiberglass Mistress"
>
> I know JimB worked on this for a while a few years back. There were problems with picking up the heavy start up load for things like AC units. Perhaps
> the tech has progressed to where this is more feasible now.
> --
> Thanks,
> Jeremy Knezek
> 1976 Glenbrook
> Birmingham, AL
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Specsmanship from the marketing department at it’s finest. Simply amazing.
Kind of like how tight should that fastner be? One grunt or two?
Furlongs per Fortnight.
Dolph
DE AD0LF
Wheeling, West Virginia
1977 26’ ex-PalmBeach
1-Ton, Sullybilt Bags, Reaction Arms, 3.70 LSD, Manny Transmission, EV-6010
“The Aluminum and Fiberglass Mistress"
>
> I know JimB worked on this for a while a few years back. There were problems with picking up the heavy start up load for things like AC units. Perhaps
> the tech has progressed to where this is more feasible now.
> --
> Thanks,
> Jeremy Knezek
> 1976 Glenbrook
> Birmingham, AL
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