Electric Fuel Pump

edgar kremer

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Someone asked earlier how to make the electric fuel pump prime the carb
on initial startup & then shut off to allow the mechanical pump to
operate independently.

I have added a simple schematic to my web site detailing how to do this.

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I'm a new kid on the block; have had my '77 Royale about 4 months now.
All this talk about an electric fuel pump has me wondering. Did my
coach come with one? or is this an add-on?
Some else asked the same question. Never saw a response.
If I don't have one, do I need one?

Don Ogden
 
TTBOMK, all electric fuel pumps are aftermarket. Some use full time
electrics w/o mechanical, some use full time electric and mechanical, and
some (me) use the electric only when needed (starting after long sit,
vapor lock onset, and high altitude on hot days. Electric pumps are a
must with fuel injection.
Gary
North Bend, Oregon Coast

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>
> I'm a new kid on the block; have had my '77 Royale about 4 months now.
> All this talk about an electric fuel pump has me wondering. Did my
> coach come with one? or is this an add-on?
> Some else asked the same question. Never saw a response.
> If I don't have one, do I need one?
>
> Don Ogden
 
Hi Don,

I've had my coach for about 6mo. I believe they all came with Mechanical
pumps, (but not sure of later models, I have a 73) But some have added the
electric pumps for a booster for vapor lock conditions, Assist Mech. pump
for grade/altitude climbing? And also to prime Carb. after long storage,
Also a
ready-togo spare fuel pump in case mech. goes out. And I have heard some say
switch from Mech. to Elec. So I guess its up to you what you want to do for
the conditions you have. I have the Mech. pump. And a elect. pump(thats bad,
and is located after the fuel filter and selector valve near fuel tanks.
Elect. pump needs to be low press for the Q-jet carb. and a flow thur
type(meaning fuel can pass thru pump when off),or a bypass with check valves
needs to be added to fuel lines. ).I have never used the elect. pump. But
it would
have helped me once in a vapor lock condition, And can assist in filling my
mt carb.bowl after
storage for faster start..But..........By having to turnover engine to get
Mech. pump to reprime carb. with fuel, This also lets the oil pump, pump oil
to my also dry engine before engine start. I tried mine after a long
shutdown.....Flipped the fuel pump switch....after alittle time pump
shutoff....Pumped gas pedal 3 times...turn key to start........My lady
started rightup, Choke on hi (mine showed 17-1900RPM)...... And my lady
started TAPPING I MEAN ATAPPING the loudest blues I've ever heard, Till the
oil made the return trip back to the pan......Last time I used the elect. to
primed the carb.!!!!!! (guess you could turn starter till oil pressure comes
up
then use elect to fill carb. and start engine). I for one would have
one(after replace) Just in
case, But also will keep the the Mech. as my primary pump. They do seem to
last forever and work if kept clean. Hope this helps alittle.

Ron&Gina
73 Pumpkin-Rose
Ft. Mohave, AZ.

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From: Donald W. Ogden
To: GMC NET
Sent: Monday, November 15, 1999 5:54 PM
Subject: GMC: Electric Fuel Pump

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I'm a new kid on the block; have had my '77 Royale about 4 months now.
All this talk about an electric fuel pump has me wondering. Did my
coach come with one? or is this an add-on?
Some else asked the same question. Never saw a response.
If I don't have one, do I need one?

Don Ogden
 
What's the part number for that fuel pump that shuts off when the
appropriate pressure is reached?

Donald,
I have to chime in here. I don't see why everyone is so concerned
about buying a pump that shuts off when pressure is reached. Someone
mentioned the Q-Jets like 4 lbs of pressure. Just go buy a Mallory unit
that comes with an adjustable regulator, install it with a pressure
gauge & be done with it. The mallory's are quiet compared to any and
all others I've heard. Summit or Jegs are a couple of good sources with
fast delivery.
Installation tip: I use rubber isolation mounts with molded in 1/4 -
20 threaded studs molded in each end to mount these (6, so far), these
are available at most muffler shops. Mount an in-line filter BEFORE the
pump.
Steve Ferguson
San Diego
 
All this talk about an electric fuel pump has me wondering. Did my
>coach come with one? or is this an add-on?
>Some else asked the same question. Never saw a response.
>If I don't have one, do I need one?
>
>Don Ogden
>

Welcome, Don!

Didn't come with one and whether needed or not is debatable. I have one
to help push fuel to the carb after a long stint in storage but my coach
is on the go every month so I seldom use the pump.

It was good to see you at the rally last weekend.

Happy Trails!

Dave Greenberg
GMC MOTORHOME REGISTRY
Seagate Towers 200 MacFarlane Dr PH4
Delray Beach, FL 33483-6829
 
>Donald,
> I have to chime in here. I don't see why everyone is so concerned
>about buying a pump that shuts off when pressure is reached.

A fellow GMC owner has a beautiful 1937 Packard Super Eight limo and he
decided to put an electric fuel pump on and thought a higher pressure
cut-off was better than a low pressure cut-off. Long, sad tale short. The
hose burst and the engine caught fire before the pump lost power.

Now the car has a Caddy engine in it and the rare Packard engine is
toast!

Dave Greenberg
GMC MOTORHOME REGISTRY
Seagate Towers 200 MacFarlane Dr PH4
Delray Beach, FL 33483-6829