Dash wire assembly 1976 Kingsley 26' VIN - TZE167V100796

[scheibejn]

name : James N. Scheibe
email : mailto:scheibejn
message : I need the dashboard wire assembly for a 1976 GMC Kingsley 26' VIN - TZE167V100796. I asked this question previously and have checked with
companies that build assemblies but - at least the first two I wrote to - they need what they call a blueprint or the old assembly to work from.
Apparently the magnified diagram I have is not what they need. Have given some thought to making one but have given up on that idea - lack of
skill/material.
I'm going to the conference in Shawnee Oklahoma. If anyone that reads this can bring an assembly I can use, I am ready to buy one. If this is not
successful, looking for a repair shop/person that can do the job. Have got the motor running well and the brakes will soon be fixed. The existing
wiring is complicated enuf without many poorly labeled changes made by the previous owner - I guess ya call that person a PO. I have not used this
forum very often and may make mistakes in getting it posted - please excuse mistakes.
Thanks
Jim Scheibe

--
Jim Scheibe
1977 Kingsley 26' GMC PD(parlor diesel)4106, 93 Volvo, 96 Volvo,
Oak Park Heights MN 55082
On the gorgeous St. Croix River lookin' at WI shore

 

[jerry burt]

Jim, A wiring schematic is used by a person to repair or build a stock wire loom. However, they have to have the coach to know where the wires
physically go. You will probably have to have someone rebuild your wiring if you don't feel comfortable doing it yourself. Especially on a 40 year
old coach with changes made by others.

--
Patti & Jerry Burt
73 Gmc 26' Canyon Lands -
Photos - http://jburt.smugmug.com/GMC-Motorhome
Lots of upgrades but lots to do to make it ours.
Members: FMCA - GMCMI - GMCWS - Pacific Cruisers - 49ers

 

[Matt Colie]

> name : James N. Scheibe
> email : scheibejn
> message : I need the dashboard wire assembly for a 1976 GMC Kingsley 26' VIN - TZE167V100796. I asked this question previously and have checked
> with companies that build assemblies but - at least the first two I wrote to - they need what they call a blueprint or the old assembly to work
> from. Apparently the magnified diagram I have is not what they need. Have given some thought to making one but have given up on that idea - lack of
> skill/material.
> I'm going to the conference in Shawnee Oklahoma. If anyone that reads this can bring an assembly I can use, I am ready to buy one. If this is not
> successful, looking for a repair shop/person that can do the job. Have got the motor running well and the brakes will soon be fixed. The existing
> wiring is complicated enuf without many poorly labeled changes made by the previous owner - I guess ya call that person a PO. I have not used this
> forum very often and may make mistakes in getting it posted - please excuse mistakes.
> Thanks
> Jim Scheibe

Jim,

Don't hope for anybody to make a new TZE harness for you.

When employed by a one of so many companies now gone, I ran the technical laboratories. We made harnesses for prototype vehicles being assembled in
our shop. Design would send us a big print with arms and numbers in all directions. Each individual arm had a length and a connector number at the
end of it. That was only half the story. The other half was the wire list. It just had columns that represented the terminals of the connectors.
Two would be adjacent and have a wire color and gauge between, that was a wire to be in the harness. The later version (after new computers) also
gave the expected run length and it was right about 80% of the time. (My wire tech got very used to checking just like he did before the new
automation.

To build the harness, wire guy would (literally) wallpaper as much plywood as it took for the size of the harness. (Two 4*8 sheets was not rare.) He
would drive nails (or pairs of) at every branch and connector. When he was ready, we would move the boards into a quiet place and also roll in a wire
rack and a HUGE cabinet of pins and connectors (client specific stuff) and he could start. I wouldn't see him again unless there was a problem or I
needed to. If he got a fresh platform harness complete in a week, that was good.

This was early 2k time and the 100+ pin ECUs were common. A TZE is pretty simple by comparison, but would expect most of a day for the board and two
days of wire and wrapping.

I suggest that you do what you are doing. Get the word out all over and hopefully someone scraping a coach will be willing to take the time to pull
one out whole. I don't even know if all the pins and connectors for a TZE are available.

Matt
--
Matt & Mary Colie - '73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Still Loving OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit

 

[hal stclair]

If you had the old harness, even somewhat hacked up, along with a good wiring diagram you might be able to have one of the harness people like
Painless reproduce it.Some of the connectors maybe difficult to replace with new but it might be worth a call to find out. The harness is rather
simple compared to modern stuff but IF they would do it be prepared to cough up some coin for sure.
If you could source the pins and connectors it shouldn't be too bad a project with an old harness as a template. But reusing the 40+ year old
connectors would most likely be a mess.
Just my thoughts, Hal
--
1977 Royale 101348,

1977 Royale 101586, Diesel powered,

1974 Eagle Bus 45',w/slideout

 

[jdlisenby]

I had the same issue. The PO, through no fault of his own, could not explain to me many of the changes he had made. That and the repairs needed caused
me to go with a Mac Dash replacement. Jim B's team at the Coop spent quite a few hours cleaning up the old wiring and rebuilding the harness. Here is
a link to a few pictures: http://http://www.gmccoop.com/gmc-motorhome-jds-dash-is-being-de-weeded/ . It can be done but it is not a job I wanted to
tackle.
--
JD Lisenby- USAF Ret
1978 Royale-455
Electromotive Tec2 FI & ignition

Navarre, FL

 

[scheibejn]

Thank y'all for the help/suggestions. Got my fingers crossed and might find out much more at the convention. Can't bring the coach 'cuz it's not yet
running that reliably. Any new comments are greatly appreciated. I've also had my share of problems with that old plastic dash monster - discovered
that epoxy and tape are good repair methods but can't really reinforce all the breakable corners. May have to do with Macdash(sp). While it may be
impossible I was thinking of drving it with my son to two grand-daughter college graduations - Vermont and Pennsylvania - in late May.
Jim Scheibe
--
Jim Scheibe
1977 Kingsley 26' GMC PD(parlor diesel)4106, 93 Volvo, 96 Volvo,
Oak Park Heights MN 55082
On the gorgeous St. Croix River lookin' at WI shore

 

[Ken H.]

Jim,

With your structural and electrical problems, maybe it's time to consider a
complete dashboard replacement:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g4899-new-dash-panel.html

No, it's really not as difficult as it looks. Mine is strictly an ad hoc
design: tear the old out and see what's needed to replace it.

Ken H.

> Thank y'all for the help/suggestions. Got my fingers crossed and might
> find out much more at the convention. Can't bring the coach 'cuz it's not
> yet
> running that reliably. Any new comments are greatly appreciated. I've also
> had my share of problems with that old plastic dash monster - discovered
> that epoxy and tape are good repair methods but can't really reinforce all
> the breakable corners. May have to do with Macdash(sp). While it may be
> impossible I was thinking of drving it with my son to two grand-daughter
> college graduations - Vermont and Pennsylvania - in late May.
> Jim Scheibe
> --
> Jim Scheibe
> 1977 Kingsley 26' GMC PD(parlor diesel)4106, 93 Volvo, 96 Volvo,
> Oak Park Heights MN 55082
> On the gorgeous St. Croix River lookin' at WI shore
>
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