Cell Phones?? (reply)

mark grady

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Many (probably many of today's) laptop modems are 'cellular' ready.

Basically, they use MNP (Microcomm Network Protocol) which is a fancy way of
saying they have a lot of error correction built in to them.

You can get an analog (tip and ring) adapter for most flip phones, then plug
the modem in to the cell phone and dial away. (The cell phone sends fake
dial tone to the modem to get it to dial).

The problems though are:

1). Many ISP's don't support the MNP protocol.
2). Many ISP's don't support connections less than 9600 baud, because the
web goes too slow.
3). The quality of the connection depends totally on the analog cellular
provider.

In some areas, (but certainly not everywhere) the newer PCS phones do a
decent job of data, at least the GSM (European technology) systems, which
are totally digital from end to end.

Powertel, Omnipoint, Bell South, PAC Bell, etc. The Sprint CDMA phones don't
support it, and I've never seen it work on TDMA systems yet.

Nextel is likely to announce a major data push in the next few months to
keep an advantage over the other digital providers.

The bottom line is that it works, if you can stand to use a text mail reader
like the Unix pine or elm mail readers in a telnet session. TCP/IP is very
forgiving as a network protocol.

We've got some ham packet stuff interconnected to our ISP network, but I
don't think that's a common thing.

You'll start to see more wireless internet connection methods in the next
few years, but right now, its not a not-quite-ready-for-prime-time
application.

I have a higher co-dependency on the Internet than most people, as well as
some other IP based systems that require a little care and feeding beyond
what I'd like to do, but still have to do.

I'll see if I can find some more specific part numbers and prices tomorrow
and send you a message. This type of technology changes so fast that it will
almost be obsolete before you receive it.

Mark

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-gmcmotorhome
[mailto:owner-gmcmotorhome]On Behalf Of ELUBO
Sent: Sunday, October 04, 1998 7:12 PM
To: gmcmotorhome
Subject: Re: GMC: Cell Phones??

Am I missing something, or am I wishing??

Is there a modem that I can hook up to a cell phone??

If so, please give me make & model Nr.

Tnx.

Ed. Lubo
 
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> Many (probably many of today's) laptop modems are 'cellular' ready.
>
> Basically, they use MNP (Microcomm Network Protocol) which is a fancy way of

Mark;

Sounds like "you the man" on cell phone internet access. I am tyring to
use cell phone and Hughes direcPC in my motorhome. When doing demos we
like to access a number of weather related web sites. Lots of maps,
graphics etc so dl time is long. Any suggestions on DirecPC and or cell
modems for the purpose?

Will you be at Marion?

Marcus
 
Probably not the man, but deep into telecom development.

No, I can't make the Marion get-together. I've got a meeting with Siemens
that conflicts.

My experience with Direct PC has been so-so. Their new software is better,
and if you need it, I'll have someone put together a disk and sent it to
you.

Hit me off net at mgrady with your delivery address.

I read the state of direct PC and Direct Duo as this: It's not as good an
implementation as Hughes is capable of delivering.

That said, we haven't yet tried a cell based telco return link, but on first
blush, there would seem to be the potential for speed impairments due to the
slow acknowledgement of the telco link.

We see that on cable modems too, where the analog modems (even those at
33.6k) can't ACK fast enough to get the full bandwidth of the incoming pipe.

Very busy week, but you raise an interesting application idea that I'll pass
on to the right people.

I'll try to see what I can find out on this emerging application and report
back to you when I know more.

Mark

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-gmcmotorhome
> [mailto:owner-gmcmotorhome]On Behalf Of Marcus McGee
> Sent: Monday, October 05, 1998 7:08 AM
> To: gmcmotorhome
> Subject: Re: GMC: Cell Phones?? (reply)
>
>

> >
> > Many (probably many of today's) laptop modems are 'cellular' ready.
> >
> > Basically, they use MNP (Microcomm Network Protocol) which is a
> fancy way of
>
> Mark;
>
> Sounds like "you the man" on cell phone internet access. I am tyring to
> use cell phone and Hughes direcPC in my motorhome. When doing demos we
> like to access a number of weather related web sites. Lots of maps,
> graphics etc so dl time is long. Any suggestions on DirecPC and or cell
> modems for the purpose?
>
> Will you be at Marion?
>
> Marcus
>