I do have the documentation, but it is in my motor home in Florida. I have
quite a few questions that may lead to some interesting conversation, such
as the fan clutch. On my first time towing a car with this rebuilt
transmission, when in Florence NC, I thought I felt it shift down. By the
time I got off the highway and into Florence, I wasn't able to move the
vehicle, ("??" ). Golby's Service Manager, who seems quite knowledgeable
says it was the fan clutch kicking in. I later found out that they found it
locked up. Any comments?
- -----Original Message-----
From: Richard Bachert
To: gmcmotorhome
Date: Tuesday, May 11, 1999 9:37 AM
Subject: GMC: AVOIDING RIP OFFS (Was Bearing puller)
>Tom -- and all,
>The internet is becoming a potentially huge weapon against the quick-buck
>scam artists out there. When I suspect I've inadvertently wandered into
the
>lair of some potential fiscal predator, I will drop -- in an offhand but
>firm way -- the comment that I'm veeeerrrry active on the net and routinely
>share my experiences (good AND BAD) with suppliers and tradesmen with -- oh
>-- 20 to 30 MILLION of my closest friends in various chat rooms, discussion
>forums and mailing lists. The effect is often akin to slowly pulling out
a
>pad and pen and gazing deeply into the eyes of some insolent or hostile
>functionary while calmly asking for the name and phone number of the
idiot's
>superior. Instant attitude adjustment often follows.
>If the information you post is accurate and you have the necessary back-up
>for any statements you might make about, for example, GETTING RIPPED OFF!,
>you are pretty safe (unless the miscreant knows where you live).
>
>I think it might be a good thing to assemble a second "Black List" of rip
>off artists we've all encountered in our travels so as to -- insofar as
>possible -- try to keep our fellow netters out of their clutches
>(transmission shop pun FULLY intended as we've all been there, done that).
>
>Dick 75 PB in Atlanta
>
>>When we are done with all of this soul searching about trannys. we
hopefully
>>should be getting some average costs for rebuilding the tranny and noting
>>some routine problems that others had. If our trannys break down on the
>>road we will have some strong negotiating ammunition so we don't get
hosed.
>>My gut reaction from other tranny rebuilds is that anything over $1500 is
>>getting suspicious.
>>
>
>>>Tranny; I'm embarrassed about my history. I seem to be hard on
>>>transmissions. I bought 74 Eleganza at 100k. At about 3500, while in
>>>Kansas City Missouri started slipping badly. I was 8 days before Alaska
>>>Ferry reservations over the 4th of July weekend. You can tell this is
going
>>>to be bad with this lead in. The only shop that would handle it was
>>>Certified Transmission managed by Darrell Wilson. He said he'd give an
>>>estimate, but I never got one till he was done. $4700. I made my ferry
and
>>>had a great trip all over Alaska. Two years and 20k miles later on my
way
>>>to Florida, it started slipping again. Don't know the outcome, but Golby
is
>>>looking at it now. I feel like a real chump, but what do you do when on
the
>>>road. At home I would have pulled and rebuilt it myself.
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Tom Warner
>>>To: gmcmotorhome
>>>Date: Sunday, May 09, 1999 1:17 AM
>>>Subject: Re: GMC: Bearing puller
>>>
>>>
>>>>It is the June 1996 issue. sorry for the confusion.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Tom In previous posting you cited Sept 1997 issue of motorhome
news
>>>as
>>>>>being the one with info on bearing service. This posting reccomends
June
>>>1996
>>>>>issueand I noticed on bottom of puller2 jpg was date of july 1996.
One
>>>or
>>>>>all?
>>>>>Bill 76 Edgemont
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have sent everyone on my wheel puller list an e-mail including
>>>pictures of
>>>>>> the puller etc. If you did not receive this private e-mail than
there
>>>was
>>>>>> either a problem with your ISP or your e-mail address. Contact me
via
>>>>>> e-mail if that is the case. so far I have received 21 confirmations
out
>>>of
>>>>>> 50 who said they wanted to buy the puller.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For others that have sent e-mails to me asking if purchase of a front
>>>wheel
>>>>>> bearing puller is necessary. In my opinion it is one of the most
>>>sensible
>>>>>> purchases you can make, whether you are doing the work on your own
coach
>>>or
>>>>>> having someone else do it. Very, very few individuals or shops have
the
>>>>>> proper tools to remove and reinstall the front wheel bearings
correctly.
>>>I
>>>>>> have seen shops use cold chisels taking bearings off the hubs or
>>>Toronados
>>>>>> (it works but one careless slip can ruin your hub), use a torch to
melt
>>>it
>>>>>> off (careless use of to much heat could change the grain structure of
>>>the
>>>>>> hub material and weaken it). Why take a chance? If you have your hubs
>>>>>> serviced by someone else, buy the puller and let them use it.If you
also
>>>buy
>>>>>> a copy of the June 1996 issue of GMC motorhome news than he will have
a
>>>step
>>>>>> by step procedure to follow complete with picutes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Netters have gotten together and are having the wheel pullers
>>>manufactured
>>>>>> for a complete cost of $180 a set. You will never wear it out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If anyone still wants to be added to the list send me an e-mail.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tom & Marg Warner
>>>>>> Vernon Center NY
>>>>>> 1976 palmbeach
>>>>>> "The beautiful Mohawk Vally"
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>Tom & Marg Warner
>>>>Vernon Center NY
>>>>1976 palmbeach
>>>>"The beautiful Mohawk Vally"
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>Tom & Marg Warner
>>Vernon Center NY
>>1976 palmbeach
>>"The beautiful Mohawk Vally"
>>
>>
>
quite a few questions that may lead to some interesting conversation, such
as the fan clutch. On my first time towing a car with this rebuilt
transmission, when in Florence NC, I thought I felt it shift down. By the
time I got off the highway and into Florence, I wasn't able to move the
vehicle, ("??" ). Golby's Service Manager, who seems quite knowledgeable
says it was the fan clutch kicking in. I later found out that they found it
locked up. Any comments?
- -----Original Message-----
From: Richard Bachert
To: gmcmotorhome
Date: Tuesday, May 11, 1999 9:37 AM
Subject: GMC: AVOIDING RIP OFFS (Was Bearing puller)
>Tom -- and all,
>The internet is becoming a potentially huge weapon against the quick-buck
>scam artists out there. When I suspect I've inadvertently wandered into
the
>lair of some potential fiscal predator, I will drop -- in an offhand but
>firm way -- the comment that I'm veeeerrrry active on the net and routinely
>share my experiences (good AND BAD) with suppliers and tradesmen with -- oh
>-- 20 to 30 MILLION of my closest friends in various chat rooms, discussion
>forums and mailing lists. The effect is often akin to slowly pulling out
a
>pad and pen and gazing deeply into the eyes of some insolent or hostile
>functionary while calmly asking for the name and phone number of the
idiot's
>superior. Instant attitude adjustment often follows.
>If the information you post is accurate and you have the necessary back-up
>for any statements you might make about, for example, GETTING RIPPED OFF!,
>you are pretty safe (unless the miscreant knows where you live).
>
>I think it might be a good thing to assemble a second "Black List" of rip
>off artists we've all encountered in our travels so as to -- insofar as
>possible -- try to keep our fellow netters out of their clutches
>(transmission shop pun FULLY intended as we've all been there, done that).
>
>Dick 75 PB in Atlanta
>
>>When we are done with all of this soul searching about trannys. we
hopefully
>>should be getting some average costs for rebuilding the tranny and noting
>>some routine problems that others had. If our trannys break down on the
>>road we will have some strong negotiating ammunition so we don't get
hosed.
>>My gut reaction from other tranny rebuilds is that anything over $1500 is
>>getting suspicious.
>>
>
>>>Tranny; I'm embarrassed about my history. I seem to be hard on
>>>transmissions. I bought 74 Eleganza at 100k. At about 3500, while in
>>>Kansas City Missouri started slipping badly. I was 8 days before Alaska
>>>Ferry reservations over the 4th of July weekend. You can tell this is
going
>>>to be bad with this lead in. The only shop that would handle it was
>>>Certified Transmission managed by Darrell Wilson. He said he'd give an
>>>estimate, but I never got one till he was done. $4700. I made my ferry
and
>>>had a great trip all over Alaska. Two years and 20k miles later on my
way
>>>to Florida, it started slipping again. Don't know the outcome, but Golby
is
>>>looking at it now. I feel like a real chump, but what do you do when on
the
>>>road. At home I would have pulled and rebuilt it myself.
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Tom Warner
>>>To: gmcmotorhome
>>>Date: Sunday, May 09, 1999 1:17 AM
>>>Subject: Re: GMC: Bearing puller
>>>
>>>
>>>>It is the June 1996 issue. sorry for the confusion.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Tom In previous posting you cited Sept 1997 issue of motorhome
news
>>>as
>>>>>being the one with info on bearing service. This posting reccomends
June
>>>1996
>>>>>issueand I noticed on bottom of puller2 jpg was date of july 1996.
One
>>>or
>>>>>all?
>>>>>Bill 76 Edgemont
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have sent everyone on my wheel puller list an e-mail including
>>>pictures of
>>>>>> the puller etc. If you did not receive this private e-mail than
there
>>>was
>>>>>> either a problem with your ISP or your e-mail address. Contact me
via
>>>>>> e-mail if that is the case. so far I have received 21 confirmations
out
>>>of
>>>>>> 50 who said they wanted to buy the puller.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For others that have sent e-mails to me asking if purchase of a front
>>>wheel
>>>>>> bearing puller is necessary. In my opinion it is one of the most
>>>sensible
>>>>>> purchases you can make, whether you are doing the work on your own
coach
>>>or
>>>>>> having someone else do it. Very, very few individuals or shops have
the
>>>>>> proper tools to remove and reinstall the front wheel bearings
correctly.
>>>I
>>>>>> have seen shops use cold chisels taking bearings off the hubs or
>>>Toronados
>>>>>> (it works but one careless slip can ruin your hub), use a torch to
melt
>>>it
>>>>>> off (careless use of to much heat could change the grain structure of
>>>the
>>>>>> hub material and weaken it). Why take a chance? If you have your hubs
>>>>>> serviced by someone else, buy the puller and let them use it.If you
also
>>>buy
>>>>>> a copy of the June 1996 issue of GMC motorhome news than he will have
a
>>>step
>>>>>> by step procedure to follow complete with picutes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Netters have gotten together and are having the wheel pullers
>>>manufactured
>>>>>> for a complete cost of $180 a set. You will never wear it out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If anyone still wants to be added to the list send me an e-mail.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tom & Marg Warner
>>>>>> Vernon Center NY
>>>>>> 1976 palmbeach
>>>>>> "The beautiful Mohawk Vally"
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>Tom & Marg Warner
>>>>Vernon Center NY
>>>>1976 palmbeach
>>>>"The beautiful Mohawk Vally"
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>Tom & Marg Warner
>>Vernon Center NY
>>1976 palmbeach
>>"The beautiful Mohawk Vally"
>>
>>
>