A few bugs to go

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neely butler

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I am sure you folks are getting tired of my problems, but I must put out
another one. Leaks, immediately behind the co-pilot's seat. water runs
down behind the upholstery and accumulates on the floor between the wall and
the dinette seat. Put all kinds of sealer on the area where the awning
attaches, even had the "pros" at the camping repair place give it a try,
they sealed everything possible, antenna. vents, etc. but after last rain.
No luck. Any suggestions??
Neely B. Tenn
 
>I am sure you folks are getting tired of my problems, but I must put out
>another one. Leaks, immediately behind the co-pilot's seat. water runs
>down behind the upholstery and accumulates on the floor between the wall and
>the dinette seat. Put all kinds of sealer on the area where the awning
>attaches, even had the "pros" at the camping repair place give it a try,
>they sealed everything possible, antenna. vents, etc. but after last rain.
>No luck. Any suggestions??
>Neely B. Tenn
>
>
IF your awning rail is mounted using pop-rivets, check the center of the pivets
sometimes the "anvel" works loose and water will enter through the hole..

Or you can try the pressure test, pressurize the coach with a blower or
vacuum cleaner
on blow and use soapy water to see where the bubbles appear.. :)

John & Brenda Szalay
73 GMC PD
OMIFEWW

 
Neely. I suspect that your leak is along the rail which connects the roof line
with the wall line. The leak could be anywhere along these rails but will show
up at the front and rear of the coach. As the water seeps in it will accumulate
in the main framing member which runs the full length of the coach. Whenever you
start or stop, the water will run along this rail and dump at the front or rear.
I went nuts with this problem before I figured it out. The only way that I came
up with to repair it was to remove, reseal and replace the track. That is a
major pain in the butt job. The water could be seeping by the screws or along
the top edge of the track. A second source may be rotted out window seals.
Good luck. Darren

> I am sure you folks are getting tired of my problems, but I must put out
> another one. Leaks, immediately behind the co-pilot's seat. water runs
> down behind the upholstery and accumulates on the floor between the wall and
> the dinette seat. Put all kinds of sealer on the area where the awning
> attaches, even had the "pros" at the camping repair place give it a try,
> they sealed everything possible, antenna. vents, etc. but after last rain.
> No luck. Any suggestions??
> Neely B. Tenn
 
Is it leaking standing still or only when moving or both?

>I am sure you folks are getting tired of my problems, but I must put out
>another one. Leaks, immediately behind the co-pilot's seat. water runs
>down behind the upholstery and accumulates on the floor between the wall and
>the dinette seat. Put all kinds of sealer on the area where the awning
>attaches, even had the "pros" at the camping repair place give it a try,
>they sealed everything possible, antenna. vents, etc. but after last rain.
>No luck. Any suggestions??
>Neely B. Tenn
>
>
>
Tom & Marg Warner
Vernon Center NY
1976 palmbeach
 
Neely,
Check the seal around the windows. The front sliders.
I had a problem of both sides leaking. It ended up being that water running
down the side got in between co-pilot/pilot window frame and coach. You
might see areas that have some sealant on the that is dry. I used the sealer
that's real runny, i.e. supposed to flow into where the leak is.

Check the area where top and bottom half of window meet.

As it took many attempts of trial and error sealing it got a little messy,
but no more leaks.

Basically the corners behind pilot/co-pilot seats were soaking wet.

May not be it, but have a peek.

Heinz

- ----- Original Message -----
From: Neely Butler
To: GMC chat
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 1999 3:46 PM
Subject: GMC: A few bugs to go

>I am sure you folks are getting tired of my problems, but I must put out
>another one. Leaks, immediately behind the co-pilot's seat. water runs
>down behind the upholstery and accumulates on the floor between the wall
and
>the dinette seat. Put all kinds of sealer on the area where the awning
>attaches, even had the "pros" at the camping repair place give it a try,
>they sealed everything possible, antenna. vents, etc. but after last rain.
>No luck. Any suggestions??
>Neely B. Tenn
>
>
 
Sorry Arch,

I thought I had some left, but no luck.

Check out the goopy sections at NAPA, etc. I think I bought the last tube at
NAPA.
The description on the tube said it was for sealing around glass and such
and it's quite runny.

I'll have a look next trip to the candy store as I usually carry some with
me.

Heinz

>Heinz
>
>I still have one little leak. It comes from the bottom of the top glass
>on the pilots side of the cockpit window. Could I have the name of
>the runny stuff? Thanks.
>
>Take Care
>Arch
>
>In a message dated 2/27/99 7:18:26 PM Central Standard Time,

>
>> I had a problem of both sides leaking. It ended up being that water
running
>> down the side got in between co-pilot/pilot window frame and coach. You
>> might see areas that have some sealant on the that is dry. I used the
>sealer
>> that's real runny, i.e. supposed to flow into where the leak is.
>>
>
>
 
Arch,



What company is it and how much? Right now we have laptop, but we
would like to put a real computer in at some point. We power the
laptops off an inverter which we could use for the real computer, but a
12V power supply should be much more efficient I would think.



Thanks,

Zak



At 09:31 PM 2/27/99 , you wrote:

>BTW Heinz I have found a company that has
a 12 V power supply for a computer.

>

>Take Care

>Arch
 
Neely, Don't overlook the obvious! All leaks aren't from the
top down.Just replaced carpet,pulled old stuff out and had co pilots seat
under layment dry rotted,dinnette corner to step top layer
delamenated.Visions of co pilot and dog disapesring at speed.Replaced
flooring and started to look up for traces of water path.Nothing!Now the
trees started to appear in the forest.Look between the skin of the coach
and frame inside,sunny day helps, my lady was trying to undress.Sealed with
silicon,then Butyl rubber ribbon,1",forced this down into seam.really
satisfied with my self.But something still was naggin the old noggin.Take a
look at the channels that run on the outer edges of the body to
frame.Located just behind the wheel well inner liner.Thier should be a
cover on the leading edge mine was gone on the co pilot side,allowing spray
to be picked up along with road stuff,must of had 2" of sand which accum.in
this channel inside the coach,which dried slowly and acted as a large
sponge laying on the ply wood.This must be covered someway.I have not
addressed this cover issue yet,maybe someones has and can post.
Jim ,Just hangin out in Lake Placid,Fla
 
The end caps (the bullet shaped pieces at each end of the awning rail) are
famous for leaks. Remove the cap (one screw) & you might be able to poke a
screwdriver through the old sealant into the inside of the coach.

> I am sure you folks are getting tired of my problems, but I must put out
> another one. Leaks, immediately behind the co-pilot's seat. water runs
> down behind the upholstery and accumulates on the floor between the wall and
> the dinette seat. Put all kinds of sealer on the area where the awning
> attaches, even had the "pros" at the camping repair place give it a try,
> they sealed everything possible, antenna. vents, etc. but after last rain.
> No luck. Any suggestions??
> Neely B. Tenn
 
Neely
Please let me know if you get a handle on this leak. I'm having the same
exact problem and won't be able to address it until the weather gets a
little better here in PA and I take the cover off my coach. (I 'll be
keeping a copy of all the replys) GOOD LUCK

Dick Missett
73 ex-Sequoia
Wyoming, PA
 
PERMATEX makes a FLOWABLE SILICONE
(silly-cone) Part No. 65A...Item No. 81730
Windshield & Glass Seal
Comes in a 1.5 oz tube...Says it "seaks the leak"
Could this be the runny stuff we're lookin for?

(I wonder if it comes in 55 gal drums?)

Dick Missett
73 ex-Sequoia (with same leak as Neely)
Wyoming, PA
 
That sounds like IT!

Heinz

- ----- Original Message -----
From: RICHARD MISSETT
To:
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 1999 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: GMC: A few bugs to go

>PERMATEX makes a FLOWABLE SILICONE
>(silly-cone) Part No. 65A...Item No. 81730
>Windshield & Glass Seal
>Comes in a 1.5 oz tube...Says it "seaks the leak"
>Could this be the runny stuff we're lookin for?
>
>(I wonder if it comes in 55 gal drums?)
>
>Dick Missett
>73 ex-Sequoia (with same leak as Neely)
>Wyoming, PA
>
>
 
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