105 A Alternator

william myers

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Someone posted reference to a late 70's/early 80's
Cadillac 105A alternator that would fit the GMC. Lost
reference, but what model Cadillac would it be?

Thanks,
Bill '74 Glacier

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Bill,
AutoZone sell a 100 Amp alternator for about $70 with a lifetime
warranty. I notice a big difference in my electrical system after I
changed to it.

J.R. Wright
GMC GreatLaker
77 Eleganza II
Michigan

>
> Someone posted reference to a late 70's/early 80's
> Cadillac 105A alternator that would fit the GMC. Lost
> reference, but what model Cadillac would it be?
>
> Thanks,
> Bill '74 Glacier
>
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
 
Arch,
Have him prove it on his test machine! I guess it all depends on the
components that he puts inside. I would make sure that he replaces all
the bearings too! The increased load could cause older bearing to fail.

J.R.

>
> In a message dated 11/21/1999 7:57:41 PM Central Standard Time,

>
> > AutoZone sell a 100 Amp alternator for about $70 with a lifetime
> > warranty. I notice a big difference in my electrical system after I
> > changed to it.
> >
> JR
>
> OK back out on a limb again. My local Alternator man says he can
> change the diodes in mine and give me 100 amp service. Is he
> for real?
>
> Take Care
> Arch
 
>
>Another thing to note on using a higher current alternator is that the wire
>from the alternator to the center terminal of the battery isolator should be
>changed to a heavier gauge as the higher current could overheat the
existing wire.
>

Emery,

I think that it's a good idea to replace this wire in the OEM configuration
as well. I haven't done it yet (planned on doing it today but then I found
the @#$$% leaking freeze plug on the truck). My wire gets quite warm to the
touch when the standard alternator is charging heavily. I haven't looked up
what size wire should be used, but I'll bet the OEM size isn't it!

Henry
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Different diodes are only part of a package to increase amperage. New
windings etc are also part of the "solution." But, the custom windings may
be no big deal if the alternator is completely apart for bearings etc.

You might want to ask your rebuilder if the 105A rating is continuous or
peak. Many automotive alternators specify peak output - which isn't
sustainable. It may be that the rebuilder is counting on the heavier diodes
to increase the continuous duty rating.

Henry

>

>
>change the diodes in mine and give me 100 amp service. Is he
>for real?
>
>Take Care
>Arch >>
>
>Arch -- Does he also believe in the Easter Bunny? To get a higher amperage
>it would require different rotor and stator windings. I fail to see how
>changing the diodes would make any difference.
>
>Emery Stora
>77 Kingsley
>Santa Fe, NM
>
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W. C. Whitney sells a 105A conversion kit PN. 71GB0646U for $36.95. This
kit seems to include every thing but the bearings. Instructions are
included.
The other Jim 76GB
 
> Changing the diodes in an alternator will increase the output only if the old
> diodes were BAD!
> It is only necessary to change the stator winding in most alternators to get
> a higher output. It is not necessary to change the rotor in the 80 amp
> alternator on the GMC.
> I do not believe that the diodes in the 80 amp alternator will stand a
> CONTINUOUS full output AT 80 amps much less 100.
>
> David

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Experience begs to differ. I have run my alternator at full load for several
hours w/no decrease in output or damage. Why would I operate at full load? Ask
anybody who knows my profession & hobby and they'll tell you.
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>
>> Changing the diodes in an alternator will increase the output only if
the old
>> diodes were BAD!
>> It is only necessary to change the stator winding in most alternators to
get
>> a higher output. It is not necessary to change the rotor in the 80 amp
>> alternator on the GMC.
>> I do not believe that the diodes in the 80 amp alternator will stand a
>> CONTINUOUS full output AT 80 amps much less 100.

David,

One of the differences in the GM MH alternator vs most automotive
alternators is that the GMC OEM unit was rated at continuous output. Most
automotive alternators specify peak output, with the continuous rating
somewhere near 80-85% of the peak.

Marine alternators intended for use as battery bank chargers are often
rated according to the continuous output. These alternators have
comparatively better cooling, heavier frames, etc. Some put the diodes
outside the frame to improve cooling and accessibility.

As the amperage capacity goes up, the ability of our OEM belts to drive the
alternator becomes problematic. A better solution is to use a serpintine
belt like Heinz, or go to a gear driven system.

Ideally, I'd like a much larger capacity alternator on my coach sized as
follows:

1. 50A for recharging my house battery bank (2 golf car batts)
2. 12A for the headlights
3. 20A for marker lights, etc
4. 5A for stereo
5. 13A for PC
6. 12A for recharging the engine battery
7. 5A for misc house systems
Total of 117A

Since I prefer to use less than 85% of the capacity, that means about a
150A alternator.

Henry

Henry Davis Consulting, Inc / new product consulting
PO Box 1270 / product readiness reviews
Soquel, Ca 95073 / IP reviews
ph: (831) 462-5199 / full service marketing
fax: (831) 462-5198
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"Since I prefer to use less than 85% of the capacity, that means about a
150A alternator."

Henry - sounds to me like you need 'two' alternators so you can split
the load a bit - many ham radio operators who run 1000 watt amps in
their mobile rigs go with two alternators and multiple batteries with
various combiners and isolators - these RF amps typically are 60%
efficient so they are drawing some 'real' current from those batteries

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